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Spiderman
21-04-2004, 07:30 PM
I'd be interested to hear from others what would be considered acceptable payback times for improvements (in this case repainting).

I have a 3br unit that would be greatly improved by interior painting. My assessment is that it is worth $180pw as is, or $200pw if painted. It is a 'buy and hold' investment bought for yield rather than growth.

Two coats would cost approx $2500. Doing this now would provide $20pw extra income. Neglecting any tax considerations, this would take 3 years to break even (incl vacancy costs). After the 3 years you would no longer have a freshly painted unit, but it would still be better than what it is now.

Thus assuming static rents, the unit might only rent for $190pw, ie an extra $500 per year for spending $2500 3 years previously.

Though this is still a (delayed) return of 20% per year for at least a few years until the paint depreciates and needs redoing, I then thought of opportunity costs of using that money elsewhere.

For instance it could be spent on boring but important preventative maintenance, improving other properties, used to reduce debt quicker or saved for unforeseen expenses.

And I haven't factored into any impact that repainting will have on values (assuming that bank valuers walk inside and don't just to a 'kerbside'), which could be useful if using any increased equity to fund further purchases.

I think the important statistic here is payback time; in this case 3 years. Do other investors look at payback times when making improvements, and is 3 years considered a good or a bad figure?

I might add that the rental market in the area is strong and a tenant is very keen to move into the unit as is for $180pw. Thus I'm very inclined to sign him up now and let the painting wait.

Regards, Peter

geoffw
21-04-2004, 10:17 PM
If I spend on improvements, I borrow to spend. So anything better than my borrowing interest rate is a bonus.

But if I improve, I also expect an increase in value (as you have mentioned). If I do paint, for instance, I will ensure that I mention this to the bank when asking for a reval.

I've done a few improvements recently. One was furnishing and painting units. $2.5K ($2K furniture, plus paint & floor polishing) increased rent by $40 pw (in each of 6 units out of 9 so far vacated). So it's a good ROI- and it has added to the value.

I'm also adding carports. That will cost me $10K- this will add nothing to existing rentals- but may add to future rents. It should add $20K+ to value though.

There are some things which are good to do to help keep tenants happy. This won't get you extra money or value, but will help to keep a tenant for longer.

Lplate
22-04-2004, 09:56 AM
1. We are trying to work out a rolling maintenance and replacement program (ie white goods etc) - not capital upgrade stuff - but based on the assumption that trades will be doing the work rather than us from now on (a case of got to get a life!).

For 20-40 yr old established houses and for newer ones.

Do any forumites have such a program or expenditure figures over a longer period?

The PM we've been speaking to is fairly new and cannot venture an idea of 'average' running costs however some more established PMs probably have some idea. I accept that some individual houses can vary.

2. For interest, does anyone have any idea what appears to be ATO's expectation as to what an owner might spend on (1) maintenance and (2) repair costs per annum as a % of house cost?

Lplate