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wish-ga
28-01-2005, 11:27 AM
I was just thinking this morning that I must get a specific notebook to write down my goals with a set timeframe.

Who does this? You have success with it I'm sure. Anyone willing to share to inspire others.

ren-A
28-01-2005, 11:56 AM
I prefer 7 Habits and would recommend the two day course.

If you wanted a quick and easy, try here:

http://www.anthonyrobbinsasiapacific.com/teleseminar4/POMdoc.pdf

Regards

TomL
28-01-2005, 12:15 PM
I dont have 'goals'.

I have Priorities
I dont set goals. I set priorities. Priorities actually mandate HOW you act, HOW you conduct business, HOW you evaluate opportunities, HOW you treat your team, HOW you play the game. It is that simple. No goals required. A clear set of rules that you follow, day in day out automatically. This automates the process of achieving things, and makes you a goal-getter, not a goal setter. Be who you have to be, just do it kinda philosophy.

I have a Vision
I can see myself one year from now, five years from now and 30 years from now. Not only can I see it, I can FEEL it. I want to feel GREAT, know that I can achieve my dreams, and how good it feels to do so. I can see the good I can do around me, how good I can make other peoplpe feel, how I can contribute and make a difference. This is how you tune your priorities, this is what provides focus and conviction to act. No goal gives you the same meaning to your journey.

but most importantly ..

I have a Purpose.
Ah you say. I want to be rich, I want to have 80 CF+ properties, I want to retire on 10x the average wage. Passive. But for what? Why? What is the motivation for this? This is your purpose. This is the thing that ties it all together, drives you to learn, to experiment, to try new ideas, to adjust, to research, to debate, to actively LISTEN and THINK. This is what you have dreamt of all your life, your calling, your holy grail. This is the topic all your friends and work mates hate for your constant relentless monologue. It all good to have priorities and a vision ... but this is what the catalyst for action, for change. If you have a purpose, your 'goals' are simply the milestones for achiving your purpose.

IMHO Goals are simply stepping stones, without a purpose you are setting youself up to fail, lose focus, become lazy,disenfranchised,complacent. Without a vision you are not emotionally invovled, you cannot FEEL the reason to commit to action. Without priorities you need to constantly re-evaluate your course of action, you are not being congruent (thanks T.Robbins).

TL.

quiggles
28-01-2005, 01:12 PM
You make some good points, Tom, but without goals how do you know how well you are proceeding? Goals don't compromise purpose, they give specifics as to how you will achieve it, they are the components to your vision and the markers to tell you whether you need to adjust your priorities.

Wish-ga, ya gotta be kidding me! "I must get a notebook to write down my goals"???? Why are you tapping on the keyboard and not screaming around the house looking for one. Or typing them down and printing out 43 copies to tape to every surface in the house.

Hmm, guess that's 2*2c worth + GST .

wish-ga
28-01-2005, 01:39 PM
Wish-ga, ya gotta be kidding me! .... tape to every surface in the house.

Quiggles, no need to be rude. Was just trying to prompt discussion and share in a supportive environment.

I do have goals written in a journal and they feature in a scrapbook I keep. In addition I have a pictorial version of one of my goals at my desk and duplicated in my cupboard that I see each day when I open it to get dressed.

What I was saying is that I don't have a specific notebook just for for goals.

Mark Laszczuk
28-01-2005, 02:02 PM
wish-ga, type em out on the computer and print em out and keep em where they are in easy reach - in a folder or something. That's what I do. That way when your goals change over time they are easier to sort through and adjust accordingly. If you want some good stuff about goals, read Brian Tracy.

simonjulie
28-01-2005, 02:58 PM
wish-ga
I have over the years had experience in introducing various music programs in the education field. The biggest problem I found was that it did not matter how good the program was, the biggest challenge for teachers was getting it out of it's box and using it.
Unless you are in the habbit of reading from a note book regularly, it may well be a waste of energy writing your goals down in it.
Introduce a habbit of associating your goals with familiar objects in your environment. Example, whenever you do the dishes focus on cleaning up bad debt or when watching tv mute the adds to remind you to never buy retail.
Kind regards
Simon

Corsa
28-01-2005, 02:59 PM
Hi Wish-ga

Great post! This is actually something I hadnt really thought of....

The closest thing to it is the "vision" that I have each day as I drive the "not so good" university car that I bought and park next door to the Mercedes and BMW's at work and realise that I am not buying the flash car now for later on.

The thought did cross my mind late last year to buy a specific notebook just to record the ideas that I have so that they dont get lost in the wash.

At work, we have to set career goals and they teach us how to frame them using the SMART methodology.

S = Specific - Goals must be specific so that they can be

M = Measurable - Goals must be framed so that they are capable of being measured against the success of them or not

A = Acheivable - Goals must be acheivable so that you have a decent chance of acheiving them. Or they should be a stretch goals so that you have to work pretty hard to acheive them but acheivable nonetheless

R = Realistic - Goals must be realistic for the relevant skills and experience that you have or are in the process of obtaining.

T = Timeframe - Goals must be framed against a timeframe in which you can acheive them so that you set about making them happen.

keithj
28-01-2005, 03:15 PM
I use MS Word in Outline View as I look at my PC every day. I have a file called 'Plan for 2005'.

With headings for -


Must do Today
Must do This Week
Must do This month
IP stuff to do this year
Shares stuff to do this year
House Reno stuff to do this year
Social stuff to do this year
Outdoor stuff to do this year
Kids stuff to do this year
etc
And under each heading there is a list of items, each with a preface of


TODO
WIP (work in progress)
Done
When things get a 'Done' status I move them to the bottom of the section (with a date) so I am constantly reminded of how much I have acheived so far today/this week/month, and how little I've actually got left to do.

I've tried notebooks, PIMs, even MS Project, but keeping it as a simple text file has worked for me.

JamesGG
28-01-2005, 03:53 PM
Quiggles, no need to be rude. Was just trying to prompt discussion and share in a supportive environment.

Hiya Wish-ga

I could be wrong, but I think Quiggles was just having a bit of fun :D

Good on you for deciding to make a note of your goals, and even better to alocate a time-frame to them.

I did this roughly three years ago, and whilst some are unfilled due to other changes in life, there are a number that have come to fruition, some ahead of schedule even. :)

Good luck to you!

James.

quiggles
28-01-2005, 09:18 PM
I wasn't having fun per se, I was sincerely surprised that you'd be typing on a computer and thinking you must get a notebook! But I'm very sorry if I offended you, Wish-ga. As an apology and a response to your thread, this is what I see every morning when I open my wardrobe to get my work shirt out:

"My dream:

Superbob. By day, Superbobis a mild mannered Assistant Secretary in a government department, known and well-liked by staff. He has a strong role in delegating and managing staff, developing and constantly upgrading their and his own skills. He always delivers against outcomes and is known as being highly reliable.

Superbob travels internationally on business about twice a year.

By night, he is a property tycoon. Along with the Empress of O'Connor, Superbob's family income is mainly derived from rents etc rather than his salary. All Australian properties are captial growth oriented and negatively geared (if necessary) but cashflow positive. Cashflow is used to build equity for overseas condominium investments etc. The Empress works the hours she chooses, subject to the demands of the Empire.

The golden stream is a raging torrent.

Despite his two jobs, Superbob still has time for a leisurely social life. He has an extensive, hihg-quality wine cellar and a lovely, well-maintained house. Friends like dropping around. He travels on holiday every year, taking all of his family who wish to come.

He never has any idea what he wants for his birthday."

The dream has changed a bit in the three years since I wrote it, but a lot of it has come true. It is a very useful backmarker - it shows where I came from and what I wanted then. Those bits that have been achieved or dropped are not forgotten, they are cherished - achievements for what I gained, and discards for what I no longer want or need.

jjnshell
29-01-2005, 12:03 AM
Good on ya Bob,

Not an easy thing to do, exposing your dreams to the masses.

I'm nowhere near brave enough to share my vision with the world but I firmly believe it must be in a prominant position in your house.

You are right. If the dream is only thought about, that is where it stays.

Jeff

The Y-man
29-01-2005, 01:59 AM
I was just thinking this morning that I must get a specific notebook to write down my goals with a set timeframe.

Who does this? You have success with it I'm sure. Anyone willing to share to inspire others.

My short and midrange goals are on a scrap of paper on the fridge door.... another highly visited spot.

It's interesting to see the sheets underneath - the oldest one done 7 years ago.

Cheers,

The Y-man

kissfan
29-01-2005, 09:07 AM
My short and midrange goals are on a scrap of paper on the fridge door.... another highly visited spot.

It's interesting to see the sheets underneath - the oldest one done 7 years ago.

Cheers,

The Y-manHi Y-man.

Were the goals from 7 years ago achieved?

Regards
Marty

amokk20us
31-01-2005, 11:57 PM
I wasn't having fun per se, I was sincerely surprised that you'd be typing on a computer and thinking you must get a notebook! But I'm very sorry if I offended you, Wish-ga. As an apology and a response to your thread, this is what I see every morning when I open my wardrobe to get my work shirt out:

"My dream:

Superbob. By day, Superbobis a mild mannered Assistant Secretary in a government department, known and well-liked by staff. He has a strong role in delegating and managing staff, developing and constantly upgrading their and his own skills. He always delivers against outcomes and is known as being highly reliable.

Superbob travels internationally on business about twice a year.

By night, he is a property tycoon. Along with the Empress of O'Connor, Superbob's family income is mainly derived from rents etc rather than his salary. All Australian properties are captial growth oriented and negatively geared (if necessary) but cashflow positive. Cashflow is used to build equity for overseas condominium investments etc. The Empress works the hours she chooses, subject to the demands of the Empire.

The golden stream is a raging torrent.

Despite his two jobs, Superbob still has time for a leisurely social life. He has an extensive, hihg-quality wine cellar and a lovely, well-maintained house. Friends like dropping around. He travels on holiday every year, taking all of his family who wish to come.

He never has any idea what he wants for his birthday."

The dream has changed a bit in the three years since I wrote it, but a lot of it has come true. It is a very useful backmarker - it shows where I came from and what I wanted then. Those bits that have been achieved or dropped are not forgotten, they are cherished - achievements for what I gained, and discards for what I no longer want or need.

Thank you for sharing Quiggles/Bob!

I write out my most important plans and goals on a whiteboard where I can see it everyday, currently using the O P A technique (Outcome Purpose Action) learned from Mr Robins. I have it in view to everyone that walks through my study, so generally when friends drop by they will have a peek and we'll have a chat about it, usually turns into a good disccusion. :)

I am not afraid to show my goals and my plans to the world, some friends who have seen my whiteboard have laughed and scorned me for it. But to be critized just gives me more desire and determination to achieve my goals & dreams, usually what gets them the most is when I ask them what goals they have set themselves this year, more then often they get tounge tied and change the subject. :p

I also love putting random quotes on my wall paper to motivate me when I'm staring at my monitor, much much better then staring at the Idiot Box.(cep when there is sports on of corse)

Cheers!

ren-A
01-02-2005, 01:45 PM
http://www.refresher.com/!byktime.html

Write out your own eulogy, then work back from there.

Much better explained in the book

The Y-man
01-02-2005, 03:23 PM
Hi Y-man.

Were the goals from 7 years ago achieved?

Regards
Marty

Yes :) - sort of. It was quite detailed with a vision based on what we knew at the time (i.e. nothing about properties, bit about managed funds, a bit about trusts).

From a net worth perspective - absolutely. From an income perspective, partially, as we would need to convert the capital we have aqcuired into income elements (in a tax effective manner).

Also interestingly, our spending has climbed a bit since those goals were put to paper (where's that budget!!). As our tastes have become a bit more expensive, so the required minimum "living comfortably" income has risen..... :p

Hope this makes sense.

Cheers,

The Y-man

Jacque
02-02-2005, 12:32 PM
Interesting thread :)

I have written goals/plans/lists of things to do in various places- notebooks, bits of paper etc. I seem to have this habit of writing things down for clarity in numerous school exercise books, which I can never seem to find when I'm anxious to find one!!!

I once read a story about list making, which I thought was great and I (sometimes but not enough) use, usually when I'm motivated.

Some large company wanted to increase their productivity so they hired an expert in time management. His advice was to get everyone in the company to write a list of six specific tasks that they wanted to achieve in a day, not necessarily in order of priority, but to make it a realistic list. At the end of the day, whatever tasks (if any) were left over were to be transferred to the top of the following day's list. This way the workers ensured they got to the bottom of the list, as it's a well known fact that, as humans, we often procrastinate and put off the tasks we really don't want to do.

Thought it might add to this discussion anyway :)
Happy goal achieving all!!

ren-A
02-02-2005, 01:30 PM
This book might help you work thorough your goals and keeps them in one place to refer back to:

7 Habits Personal Workbook

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743250974/103-4867692-2554222

Brizzy Boy
02-02-2005, 02:34 PM
Hi Guys,
interesting discussion and has made me look back on my 45 years of life. Have tried the note book, making list of priorities, pictures on walls etc. I remember making a list of priorites of the things my wife an I wanted to achieve when we moved into PPOR and promptly lost the list. We found it 7 years later and low and behold all priorities were achieved.
Found with note books and such you could become a little disheartend if things get in the way, eg: marriage break up, breakdown, loss of job due to illness etc. I have come to realise that reguardless what the world has thrown my way, I have stayed true to my couple of goals set about 30 years ago. I have a number of Ip's and growing each few months or so, to achieve my goal of not being reliant on a pension so my first goal I can see as attainable. My second is a boat about 15 to 18m long, on my way to work each day I pass a marina & each day I can see it comming closer & closer, I have promised myself that in the next few weeks I am going to stop, hop aboard one of these boats, Have it below my feet, touch it smell it & anything you can do with it. In short I feel if you are truely genuine about your goals you don't need to write them down because you should be living and breathing them every day.
Anyway that is my experiance thus far as I have 10 more years to go.

Thanx for the yime to hear me out
John

Sultan of Swing
02-02-2005, 08:01 PM
My second is a boat about 15 to 18m long, on my way to work each day I pass a marina & each day I can see it comming closer & closer, I have promised myself that in the next few weeks I am going to stop, hop aboard one of these boats

Hmmmmm.....

Two guys just stole a $350,000 yacht from Melbourne and are apparently heading toward Tasmania sparking a rather largish police search. :eek:

Where were you yesterday, Brizzy Boy and are you sure you're not just saying that to throw us of your trail....????? :p

Brizzy Boy
02-02-2005, 08:12 PM
LOL Sultan,
but a yatch is not my thing, now if it were a cruiser then I might be in some trouble. :)

<KS>
02-02-2005, 11:23 PM
In short I am too lazy to write goals etc down, and dont feel I need them.

Why?

Because I never stop thinking about the next way to boost my empire and what the consequences of fulfilling my dream will be.

Heck I even dream about Funds and RE, and chat about my RE ideas when I am drinking a beer with my mates! (ok I occasionally stop to talk about footy and cars, but then I am reminded about the mercedes I want and hence I am back to thinking about business again!)

So I figure its no point me writing it down, because every working moment I am not making someone else money I am doing something to do just the same for myself - even more so now my motivation is at an all time high.

But dont get me wrong, If your not VERY good at mind mapping then there is no better way than planning on paper - yes paper, coz writing aint typing - believe me 4 years in university taught me that. And it was the difference between a credit and distiction.

<KS>

Aceyducey
02-02-2005, 11:37 PM
I like having written goals - though not always on paper (some in this forum).

It makes a goal more real for many people to have it physically readable & the act of writing (or typing) them is a good reinforcement.

Even if you think writing down goals is embarrassing or try-hard stuff it's worth trying. The effect can be much greater than the effort.

Cheers,

Aceyducey

kissfan
03-02-2005, 06:54 AM
Hmmmmm.....

Two guys just stole a $350,000 yacht from Melbourne and are apparently heading toward Tasmania sparking a rather largish police search. :eek:

Where were you yesterday, Brizzy Boy and are you sure you're not just saying that to throw us of your trail....????? :pHmmmmm.....

I believe the yacht was found in a cove in Tasmania.

Where were you yesterday SOS, maybe at the handoff point. :D

Have a good day.

Regards
Marty

Pete
04-02-2005, 08:38 PM
KS,

One consequence of defining goals is to know when you've reached your goal.

Simplistic examples.

Goal $10,000,000 equity (or "a V12 Mercedes coupe"). When you get there, you've achieved your goal. Simple. Time then for other goals.

Contrast that with "I want to be really rich" or "have a Mercedes". You might be wonderfully successful and get to $1,000,000,000 wealth or "a base model Mercedes". You might keep aiming for more because the goal was indefinite, open. This can leave you unsatisfied. There will always be more to achieve.

I haven't explained that really well, but hopefullly the idea comes through.

regards,

quintets
06-02-2005, 09:55 AM
I was just thinking this morning that I must get a specific notebook to write down my goals with a set timeframe.

Who does this? You have success with it I'm sure. Anyone willing to share to inspire others.
Wish-ga, I think it's great you've taken the first step to write down your goals and set a deadline. Everyone has different ways of remembering what they want to do. If a list works for you, then keep it in a visible spot, Y-man's idea of the fridge sounds like a great idea. I think I might need to do that. ;)

Our battle on goals is working out "After the main goals, so what are the next steps?". For us, we discovered it's a bit of renewed financial discipline and integration with medium term goals. After two frenzied IP purchases in 2001 and 2002 and a forced first PPOR in 2003, we've hit a wall. And the wall is in ourselves. We can't budget well and don't seem to have control on spending. Well, actually, I'm the guilty party here. :rolleyes::rolleyes: My wife is very good at this stuff.

So right now, we're on a six month investment hiatus where we re-establish a savings pattern and monitor the spending. I'm itching to get into the sharemarket and looking again at property, but I promised I'd stick to the six months. Once we've re-established the internal patterns, then we'll go back to looking at the external buying/renovating/selling.

I hope this works for us. :o:D

My 1.5 cents (discounted for untried ideas)

simonjulie
06-02-2005, 10:45 AM
Hi Qunitets
Budget is an UGLY word. Prctice tracking your expenses instead. Look where you have been so you can see where you are going. You will get a better picture of your financial situation. Remember you get good at whatever you practice(positive or negative)
Kind regards
simon

quintets
06-02-2005, 01:11 PM
Hi Qunitets
Budget is an UGLY word. Prctice tracking your expenses instead. Look where you have been so you can see where you are going. You will get a better picture of your financial situation. Remember you get good at whatever you practice(positive or negative)
Kind regards
simon
Yes SimonJulie, I agree. Budget is an ugly, UGLY word. And when my lovely wife kept hassling me that we had to do a budget I couldn't understand what she was on about. "Let's just make sure the income cashflow keeps growing and then we won't have to worry about it!!". I would say. GROWTH!!! Bless her soul, she kept at me and gave me information until I "got it".

This isn't for everyone, but this is where I am. And because it's where I am, it's where "we" are. I'm the lowest common denominator in this learning path.

My wife is a big FlyLady fan and she pulled out these essays on good financial management. It's a series of articles called F.A.C.E. or financial empowerment continually empowers. FlyLady writes about FACEing your financial situation, and I took it as IPs, groceries, credit cards and all. The goal is to envision your house as a well-run quality hotel and run it that way. It's all about good household and financial management.

http://www.flylady.net/images/FACE2004.pdf

So what's this got to do with budgets? The section on budgeting is actually the smallest part. The most important part is, as you say, awareness. Once you have awareness of what you're spending, then you can set goals with a level of control. I need to learn how to be more thrifty, seeing as I didn't come from that kind of a background.

I guess we needed to do this because we seem to have an internal serviceability problem. The bank is willing to lend us more money, but our internal cashflow can't seem to support more properties right now. Hence, a look at internal cost reductions.

I must say it's amazing how good it feels to set weekly spending targets and actually MEET them. It's the arranging of all the other goals to take advantage of the disciplines that's the next thing.

Cheers!!

:):):)

simonjulie
06-02-2005, 02:37 PM
Hi Quintets
After you have established a sound tracking routine the next step is to start building financial safety nets(time buyers) eg.1/ If you are running some of your finances on two credit cards then clear one and keep it only for a back up.2/ live off 70% of your net income and divide the rest into strategic plans for saving,debt reduction,lifestyle improvements or whatever.
As these financial safety nets start to appear you might start to experience a cushioning effect from the unexpected financial pressures of day to day life(new tyres for the car,school excursions or other unexpected financial slugs)
Having sound financial safety nets in place help us to feel more relaxed in moving forward with investing simply because we have something to fall back on if something goes wrong.
Kind regards
Simon

quintets
06-02-2005, 02:59 PM
Hi Quintets
After you have established a sound tracking routine the next step is to start building financial safety nets(time buyers) eg.1/ If you are running some of your finances on two credit cards then clear one and keep it only for a back up.2/ live off 70% of your net income and divide the rest into strategic plans for saving,debt reduction,lifestyle improvements or whatever.
As these financial safety nets start to appear you might start to experience a cushioning effect from the unexpected financial pressures of day to day life(new tyres for the car,school excursions or other unexpected financial slugs)
Having sound financial safety nets in place help us to feel more relaxed in moving forward with investing simply because we have something to fall back on if something goes wrong.
Kind regards
Simon
Mmm...good advice Simon.

We've already started reducing the number of credit cards we have. There's just one for day-to-day purchases and the bank even has a different number for myself and my wife, so we can see on the statement who bought what.

Even though one low-interest credit card is purely for sudden investment purchases, we don't have the revolving LOC to move the purchases into.

There's many other little things that we're doing and the exciting thing to learn after 15+ years of living away from home is just which "big rocks should go in the jar first".

Living off 70% of our income is one of those big rocks. I'll have to remember to ease this into the conversation the next time we talk about the budget.

We've got a reasonable buffer around the IPs (months ahead on mortgages, building and landlord insurances). Now we just need to get the buffers and "time savers" (I think this is what you meant) for ourselves.

OURSELVES!! Hah hah. Just to think I love those IPs more than I do myself. Hmmmmm.

Cheers,

Jireh

simonjulie
06-02-2005, 05:08 PM
Hi Quintets
Here is a link to a website that has a number of interesting articles on wealth creation,debt reduction and saving.
http://www.the-richest-man-in-babylon.com
I hope it may be of some help.
Simon

Kiwi Investor
07-02-2005, 09:24 AM
Hi All, my main goal is to not rely on the Government and retire as early as possible !!

'Don't play by the rules, invent your own game'

Teresa
06-06-2005, 01:13 AM
I use MS Word in Outline View as I look at my PC every day. I have a file called 'Plan for 2005'.

With headings for -


Must do Today
Must do This Week
Must do This month
IP stuff to do this year
Shares stuff to do this year
House Reno stuff to do this year
Social stuff to do this year
Outdoor stuff to do this year
Kids stuff to do this year
etc
And under each heading there is a list of items, each with a preface of


TODO
WIP (work in progress)
Done
When things get a 'Done' status I move them to the bottom of the section (with a date) so I am constantly reminded of how much I have acheived so far today/this week/month, and how little I've actually got left to do.

I've tried notebooks, PIMs, even MS Project, but keeping it as a simple text file has worked for me.

Hi keithj,

I like this idea - it keeps it all in one place and it can be easily updated. We usually have scrappy pieces of paper here and there and sometimes we stumble across them.

Thanks for sharing

Teresa

Melrose pl
06-06-2005, 01:36 PM
All i know is that i have the desire to accomplished with all the things that i want/need out of life! :)

Evryday is a challenge to me,and happy to be alive too ;)
so i just take each day at a time and do my best. If things dont happened to work out,hey, i just try again and go forward... ;)


Life it self is a journey :)

MeLs Plce

quiggles
06-06-2005, 02:05 PM
...but maybe you'd like to try it with a map?

Goals are not only useful, they are satisfying and liberating. It's nice being fancy free, but's it's exhilarating driving down the highway towards the place you want to go, feeling the engine going faster all the time.

My personal view, but strongly held.

rambada
06-06-2005, 09:14 PM
I think goals are essential BUT they must be linked to action and clearly defined results in a clear time.
So many people set goals and have no action. Whats the point of having a Ferrari with an empty tank! Action is the fuel of goals.
We link all our goals to our age. Its a speedo you can not turn back or alter. And believe me if you have a goal set for age 45, and 45 looms and you haven't achieved it - it is absolutely powerful.
Funny though, as you move towards and achieve your given goals, they change. I think they change from being self centered (financial) to being what can I do for others, for the planet. We have been fortunate enough to achieve our goals ahead of time - and we are know thinking more globally.
The other thing is that there must be continuing of goals. This sounds silly but I remember a Gold Medalist crying at the serimony and every one thought it was for joy. But it was tears of anguish as they had achieved there goal and now what? Their life was empty, directionless and meaningless. We achived our primary goals ahead of time at age 42, 3 years early. It has taken us 12-18 months to restabilise, become comfortable with our success, and to move forward.

Absolutely love this topic.

Melrose pl
07-06-2005, 12:35 PM
...but maybe you'd like to try it with a map? What map do i need to prove it just for you ? :D

Goals are not only useful, they are satisfying and liberating. It's nice being fancy free, but's it's exhilarating driving down the highway towards the place you want to go, feeling the engine going faster all the time.

Liberating and exhalirating every day that im alive and positive that i have achieved alot in life! :D

My personal view, but strongly held.
My personal view....I dont need to explain or prove to you what i hve and hvent achieved ...who named you Donanld Frump anyway? :p

Monopoly
07-06-2005, 01:55 PM
who named you Donanld Frump anyway? :p Frump??? :eek: Our quiggles??? :eek: Hardly!!! :rolleyes: Both he and his wife looked pretty shmick :cool: in the Feb API mag earlier this year!!! ;)

quiggles
07-06-2005, 03:33 PM
Frump??? :eek: Our quiggles??? :eek: Hardly!!! :rolleyes: Both he and his wife looked pretty shmick :cool: in the Feb API mag earlier this year!!! ;)

You'll turn my head, you will! :) (Most of my mates reckoned it was a good thing I was in the background, in fuzzy focus :p )

Melrose pl
07-06-2005, 08:09 PM
Frump??? :eek: Our quiggles??? :eek: Hardly!!! :rolleyes: Both he and his wife looked pretty shmick :cool: in the Feb API mag earlier this year!!! ;)

Speaking of "mag" you actually reminds me of DOLLY PARTON ;)
Who pressed your button? :rolleyes:
Besides.....not interested playing" MONOPOLY" with you :eek:

Monopoly
07-06-2005, 09:46 PM
you actually reminds me of DOLLY PARTON ;) LOL...You're too funny Mel!!! :p Actually you remind(s) me of someone(s) too!!! :D

Aceyducey
07-06-2005, 10:44 PM
Yeah Mel is a bit of a Troll isn't she Monopoly.

It's always amusing to watch people act in that way and think they're achieving something :)

Generally they don't last long though.

Cheers,

Aceyducey

Monopoly
07-06-2005, 10:52 PM
Yeah Mel is a bit of a Troll isn't she Monopoly.

It's always amusing to watch people act in that way and think they're achieving something :)

Generally they don't last long though.

Cheers,

AceyduceyHey Ace, ;)

Knew you'd be on the ball on this one!!! :p

Cheers,

Jo

kissfan
08-06-2005, 10:58 AM
Wow, what's got up Melrose's nose.

Take it easy mel

Melrose pl
08-06-2005, 11:11 AM
Wow, what's got up Melrose's nose.

Take it easy mel

Well, why dont you ask the "the dirty dozen clan" ,who started the whole game :rolleyes:

mel shall take it easy then :cool:

Melrose pl
08-06-2005, 11:14 AM
LOL...You're too funny Mel!!! :p Actually you remind(s) me of someone(s) too!!! :D

Gosh, really M_poly, was it Aceys!!!! :eek: Grous :eek: :eek:

Monopoly
08-06-2005, 11:42 AM
Wow, what's got up Melrose's nose.

Take it easy melNah she's cool Marty....Mel is really an "Angel" when you get to know her!!! ;) :p

zeph
08-06-2005, 08:24 PM
hi Corsa, i will definitely use your terms for me and my staff to keep us all motivated

thanks
Zph

RRH
10-06-2005, 09:19 AM
Well, I do try and keep things into prespective,even though it keeps changing every year :rolleyes: Even my PA have given up on me!

So far i have achieved(2 )of my goals. And as for this years goal,so far nothing just yet. I must start repeat ing to myself again while driving to work: Day by day in every way im getting richer & sexier ! :p

Rrh

alwayscurious
10-06-2005, 03:17 PM
I love having lists of goals.

Some of them are ridiculously expansive and it's great.

Aim for the stars - at least clear the trees!!

I love writing a list, with
1) - write a list


Then finishing the list

AND CROSSING # 1 off!! Makes me feel like I've achieved something.

Without goals I fumble about - it's my nature. I organise sock drawers, and clean paint off screwdrivers, and sort screws.

All those little satisfying - totally usesless type jobs that take up heaps of time and don't return anything - I feel like I've really wasted time.

With goals I am constantly engaged and driven to the next thing.

Some of my goals include self betterment.

This is a rant to myself. To get on with it.

Back to work me.

cheers
ac

Aceyducey
11-06-2005, 01:47 AM
And it's important to have a couple of completely pointless goals that you care nothing about on the list as well.

There's nothing as satisfying as being able to defer a couple of meaningless and irrelevant goals in order to focus on the important ones. It satisfies that little voice that always says 'I'll do it tomorrow'.

Most important is not setting the goals, it's your commitment to actually completing them. It's always important to finish what you

Monopoly
11-06-2005, 12:51 PM
It's always important to finish what youstarted??? :p Sorry Ace, couldn't resist.....it's the ex-school teacher in me!!! ;)

geoffw
11-06-2005, 03:12 PM
It's always important to finish what youscrewed up and gave up a long time ago.

quoll
11-06-2005, 05:56 PM
And it's important to have a couple of completely pointless goals that you care nothing about on the list as well.

There's nothing as satisfying as being able to defer a couple of meaningless and irrelevant goals in order to focus on the important ones. It satisfies that little voice that always says 'I'll do it tomorrow'.

Most important is not setting the goals, it's your commitment to actually completing them. It's always important to finish what you
Come on Acey give some examples!

Aceyducey
11-06-2005, 09:30 PM
EG: Collecting 10kg of pocket fluff.

Cheers,

Aceyducey

PS: I finished my post deliberately at that point (for those who hadn't worked it out). I've used the joke previously in the forum :)

Monopoly
11-06-2005, 10:18 PM
PS: I finished my post deliberately at that point (for those who hadn't worked it out). I've used the joke previously in the forum :)Yes I guessed as much Ace, was just having a lend that's all. :p