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qaz
13-02-2005, 03:42 PM
This isn't directly related to investing but like everything, it is in-directly related.

Merovingian
13-02-2005, 08:20 PM
I do believe in right and wrong, but I also believe that we put meanings to things in life. i.e. What if the meanings I give things in life contain rights and wrongs?

I guess I could have voted for both, but the poll only allowed one option. :confused: :p

monoply
14-02-2005, 08:07 AM
I believe there is good and evil, right and wrong, black and white, day and night, heaven and hell.

Monopoly
14-02-2005, 08:58 AM
I believe there is right or wrong, black or white, day or night, heaven or hell.
Absolutely mono, and a whole lot of stuff in between!!! ;)

Twitch
14-02-2005, 01:28 PM
I haven't seen a copy of these absolute rights and wrongs, I must have been missed off the distribution list. :p

quiggles
14-02-2005, 01:36 PM
I've had to put down for other. Right and wrong, for me, are not absolute. Circumstances matter. By the same token they are not internal to me - what about other people? There is no one truth, one faith, one moral force.

There is only doing good and doing right as one presently perceives and understands it. And even that changes.

aussierogue
14-02-2005, 01:57 PM
all in context though, and the more contexts you have the more likely you are to find evil. ie the message is to keep life simple. if you live a simple life with simple needs you will have a better chance to live a life of virtue.

just ask the monks - not too many contextual problems in there case as opposed to a lawyer with 10 investment houses, 1 ppor, 1 million debt, multiple aincome streams 1 wife, 3 girlfirends 2 kids 5 credit cards and a partriage in a pair tree...

(see my prejudice against lawyers - feel free to insert commodity traders)

always_learning
14-02-2005, 04:04 PM
a lawyer with 10 investment houses, 1 ppor, 1 million debt, multiple aincome streams 1 wife, 3 girlfirends 2 kids 5 credit cards and a partriage in a pair tree...


10 Investment houses 1 PPOR and only $1M in debt...pick me..pick me..pick me!!! please please! (even better if they are in Sydney?! )
Multiple income streams...lovely!

5 credit cars...why not! don't have to use them!

1 wife...sure!

2 kids...sure!

3 girlfriends...OK, that's just asking for problems! actually 1 wife is more than enough! If there is a god then she set the ratio sexes as 50/50 for one clear reason, that keeping one woman happy is a full time job for any man :D

wish-ga
14-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Every society ascribes right and wrong to things to harmonise that groups of people live in close proximity. Whether there are religious overtones is another thing.

But all social organisation is based on what is and isn't accepted.

eg we usually eat in a certain way to make meals pleasant for those around up (please no shovelling) or go to the appropriate gender public bathrooms (hey you chicks got a vending machine in here!)

Good (God) and Evil (Satan) is another thing altogether and not a commonality across all cultures. Accepting certain things and disallowing others is common across all cultures and society.

<wish-ga takes underpants off head and feet off table>

woohoo
15-02-2005, 07:36 PM
Right or wrong, good or bad is pretty relative and subjective.

The Chinese Taoist example is :A farmer's son fell off the horse and broke his leg, his neighbours says "how bad ". Weeks later all the young kids in the village were forced into the military, except the farmer's son. The farmer said " you were saying?"

A muslim shall not eat pork, if they do, "oh thats bad" they feel guilty for the rest of their life. We are big fans of bacon and ham.

Is it good/bad to have relationship with people you just met? "one night stand"?

Its all believe. Probably the overall guide to action is, only to do unto others, what you want others to do unto you.

And do things according to your inner values.

Patosan
16-02-2005, 01:01 AM
Life often presents complcated situations where one can't always agree on right or wrong, then as Woohoo stated there are different belief systems. However I feel that there is a basic instinctive knowledge of right and wrong from birth, which is then molded by the social, religious and family systems.

Good and evil ... well that's a much bigger question. Is there evil or simply a lack of goodness ?
This one's too big for me and I fear theis post too.