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i was one of these people and i did take a spoonful of my own medicine, with much success. i took a CFD on XJO (well, STW actually...) with a reasonable stop (i got in at $32.50) because of the convergence (i couldn't find the pic for reference, here's a basic google line chart) anyhoo, i think...

lol yeah true - it's just AUS gets tarred with the same brush when it's now blaring-ly freaking-ly obvious that we do not conform to standard US economic predictions and models. but yes - borrow more we did, pay the price we will....

this is my standing along with a few economists i subscribe to.

and "the west" being....? you can't group the US, UK and AUS anymore. regionally completely different.

last i heard was that both shanghai and beijing are already re-opening steel mills that were shut down 8-9 months ago. india has BLASTED it's way outta this GFC, china will always be a big player now. China only has a small hold of RIO, certainly enough to lodge a formal objection worth...

sure. Sept/Oct will see some horrible freaking news come out of the US regarding corporate earnings for the season we're about to enter. we will follow the SP500 and DJI and QQQQ as usual, but it will be the last time. XAO only just popped 4000, so there'll be some resistance now. any...

i believe a recovery is already 50% priced in - all ords broke 4000 again yesterday and i reckon we'll see a slowing now until Dec. still, there's 10% left, but i still call a sept/oct correction, possibly 3200ish. however, a lot of your first list was in the second list 6 months ago - so i'm...