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i think there are PLENTY of ways to retire without using an SMSF. cashflow is what you need. how you attain said cashflow is the moot point. think commercial, CF+ property, option selling...... and that's just property. i uses my SMSF as a self funding wealth store, not an profit...

thanks for coming back. there many types of investment strategies, and i believe i have learned a new one today :) while i totally respect what you are saying and have avoided posting so far, i disagree to an extent. i love the tax benefits for SMSFs - really, i have one myself and look to...