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....LIVING life..... my plan was to be ready to grow by 30. if i'm not a decent way to being retired and enjoying my life at 40 then god help me.

there is no upside at 40+, you're halfway through your life, glass half empty and it's all downhill.... joking...:D

point being?

i drive a 4cyl hilux, eat locally and don't drink coke.

WW - we're not talking about investing in SOHO, we're taling about a China property collapse.

seriously Penny, thansk so much for taking the time to post up. on the ground analysis is so much better than pie-in-the-sky acedemic theory. it's clear demand is there, just either too expensive or not properly situated. therefore, when the affordability key is in the lock, then a new door of...

watching at present. i shouldn't even be in the market to be honest, i haven't got the time to properly study and monitor my trades.

the font was stupid small and his syntax was a little ... i dunno, odd?

Ii've dropped all my long positions this afternoon like a hot potato.

that couldn't have been harder to read if the order was to MAKE it harder to read.

i still see a nice underlying growth trend support line.

take your chart back a little longer and you'll see a steady upward trend.

ooooh now you got me thinking - i think that's the idea. they can use their HUGE cash reserves to undercut any manufacturing nation on the planet by devaluing their currency. method in the madness there was, it seems.

any industry that's short the euro

hehehe you're losing your touch WW :cool: Look up Chongqing for the bullish retort.

anyone who understood what a CDO was back then could have also predicted the crash. unfortunately, not many people did, so they couldn't. "apparently" doesn't cut it. i'm not a perma bull, but you can't just say "apparently" and choose (or choose not) to invest off that.

oooh you can't make claims like that Mr Fish, without some sort of obscure graph to back up your claim.

Penny, would you mind attempting to bring back some hard data like, i dunno...photos? may put this issue to bed once and for all.

jus because someone who doesn't sell eBooks or newsletter has formed an opinion doesn't mean the world will end like they may or may not think. what matters is hard data. which you can't get out of china. period.

....or more rich individuals who WONT buy outright, if at all. maybe they're buying here instead.