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with the way rudd is tackling carers allowances and pensioner payments i can see why he mentioned the pain to come. if he is being this harsh, what have the main stream got coming?

yes if you think getting rid of the dole is a good idea have a walk around the streets of Vancouver for half an hour and you may soon change your mind

not sure why you are taking issue with my comments when I agree with you. no i don't think everyone on the dole is a druggie - what a stupid theory. your assumption that I have had no exposure is a ridiculous sterotype... *deleted - getting too personal, petty, cant be bothered...

I think you would find that most crime such as theft, break in, muggings are in the name of feeding a drug habit, not to put food on the table.

I should add that I dont think anyone that is currently long term unemployed cant genuinely find a job - other than physical or empotional handicap

dunno.. you said cutting welfare leads to crime. I think they should get benefits, I dont want people stealing my stuff to support their drug habits. I was just agreeing.. pay them off and everyone else that makes some noise = the path of least resistance.

and other green goods hey ;) You are right tho, easiest to pay off the violent or most vocal members in society, is almost the norm for australian politics