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    Bali Nine

    For sure. Well, for one thing, it will create jobs - those healthcare workers etc associated with the clinics, delivery vans for supplies (van drivers), cleaners...the list would be extensive. These folks will then pay taxes and then spend money back into the economy. Plus, the saving...
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    Bali Nine

    I've been bangin on for ages about this. We've lost the war on drugs - according to the authorities. Folks will still try to use drugs whether they are legal or not. Time to think laterally and address how to manage it so folks don't die, and crime is not committed, and we can save millions...
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    Bali Nine

    +1 here. I normally have a glass or 2 of wine every night these days, but can easily not have a drink for several weeks, and do..I would say most folks are similar. However; your last point about the 3am ER tantrums also applies to drunk people. :eek:
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    Bali Nine

    The sentences for the respective criminals - even though the results are the same (dead people)- are about right. The drug trafficker is guilty of manslaughter basically - "I didn't mean for anyone to die, Yer Honour; I was just providing a product to those who wanted it". (Drug users have...
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    Bali Nine

    Dare I say it; only a matter of time, Aus.
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    Bali Nine

    Why is it that so many folks who are in danger, or sick, or are bad dudes and get caught - suddenly find God? Didn't God make them sick or in danger, or a bad dude in the first place? (actually; that bad dude part was Satan..God was on holidays that day :rolleyes:) Hey! That's my religion...
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    Bali Nine

    I reckon that if it was me who was the idiot drug trafficker who got caught, and if I was threatened by my higher-up cronies that if I blabbed my family would be slaughtered, then I would cop my medicine and take the secret to my grave to protect my family - because it was I who put myself in...
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    Bali Nine

    And finally; there are probably more drug traffickers and dealers get murdered by their own business colleagues than by the authorities who catch them.. M & A may have actually had 10 more years of life than they might have had if not caught.
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    Bali Nine

    The AFP are there to stop crime, and apprehend those who commit crimes. Are they a perfect specimen? Of course not. They are humans trying to do a job but can make a bad decision now and then. So, a would-be illegal drug dealer/trafficker/user is more than likely going to get caught and face...
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    Bali Nine

    Just on the subject of MJ; many folks see it as no big deal. Maybe true. My BIL was a sensitive, gentle man. Got introduced to MJ at some point, and within a few months became paranoid, schizophrenic...started thinking he was being followed, became scattered and irrational, and generally...
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    Bali Nine

    When you see warning signs around the place that promise the death penalty for trafficking drugs, in a Country you are visiting; it's probably a very good idea not to do it. Blame the AFP, or the Bali Gubb as much as you like.... These two guys - were already experienced traffickers, and...
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    Bali Nine

    Now I'm hearing it all; :rolleyes: 1. Libs came in after worst Labour (and Aus record) of all time - despite the biggest resource boom of all time. 2. Senate has blocked virtually every attempt at reforms so far. Plus, 86% of all Gubb revenues is already legislated spending. 3. Iron ore price...
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    Bali Nine

    Further; don't do drugs and don't travel with drugs. If the actual event of travelling itself - to enjoy life and experience our planet's offerings - is not enough to get you high; you have problems and have missed the real point..
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    Bali Nine

    Hopefully, if their parents are even half engaged with their kids and talk openly about such things they might encounter in life, the kids might make the right decisions. Of course; there are no guarantees they will do this. We discuss these sorts of things with our kids all the time. I had a...
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    Bali Nine

    Completely disagree. The Gubb was using every possible option to try and save these boys' lives. The reminder of the aid was but one in probably hundreds of attempts - right up until the last hour. That disgraceful ad where all those actors and celebrities were slagging Tony Abbott for...
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    Bali Nine

    I don't agree with you on the death penalty for drug smugglers, because they are peddling a product, and noone is forced to buy it...there has to be a degree of shared blame and guilt. But I almost do agree with the death penalty for peadophiles. What they do; they cannot cure themselves of...
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    Bali Nine

    So what's the answer? To let many out means more reoffending - on ABC radio this morning they had a rep from the Police force discussing various issues, and he stated that he has never seen a crim come out of jail as a better person. I know one possible answer; be enlisted into the Armed...
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    Bali Nine

    The death sentence is not mandatory for trafficking offenses over there from my understanding. The problem with this whole case in my opinion is the last 10 years and what the two boys have done since they were caught. Firstly, they have spent 10 years in jail already. That is a sentence...
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    Bali Nine

    Apparently not. In fact, for eg; on ABC radio last week, there was a police guy talking about the Ice epidemic currently now on in Ballarat. It's unbelievable; with all the information and advice now freely available to folks about the dangers of all these drugs, we still see an increase in...
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    Bali Nine

    It's like the Olympics - almost all the Aus coverage is about our athletes, and every other Country is doing the same with their coverage. Same with anything; when we lived in the USA, there was next to no coverage of anything anywhere else in the world - other than the Iraq/Afghanistan...
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