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  1. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    My whole counter-argument to the Alarmists is to the same extent as the Alarmists. Alarmists are armaggeddonists (is that a word?) in their beliefs, so I like to come back at them just as hard...lots of fun. But really; my view is this in very simple language; 1. Climate change has always...
  2. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    To be a CC/GW skeptic does not mean to be selfish. What are we being selfish about? FYI; I do a fair degree of stuff in my own little world to try and keep our planet clean and tidy and a place for my kids to enjoy later. If you want to talk selfish; Have a closer look at Alarmists who...
  3. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    I have the same reaction as you just did when I hear alarmists wanting the world to spend billions on programs which will make absolutely no difference whatsoever to the temperature. And of course; when you bring this little detail to their attention, they all scream out; "But, but; we...
  4. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Update; snowing in a number of areas in Vic...no Autumn and no Summer to speak of. And it's still May. I accept your apologies, Alarmists. :D
  5. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Yep. I'm wondering what will happen in Sydney over the next 5 years. It is enjoying a boom, loads of new projects and builds etc, but the economy as a general is bad - wages are not increasing and businesses are not hiring, spending down, etc. I can see a sudden screeching halt, with...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    It's not that we deny it per se; we deny the hysteria, the perceived level of increases/impact/destruction, and the percentage of influence by humans. Disagree. Many Labs would tear down the rich - not applaud them. Libs don't tear down the rich, and they still want to help the disadvantaged...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Of course they do; TF came out the other day and commented on te floods up in NSW, and on an interview with Tony Jones - who asked him if these recent floods could be attributed to CC, he responded with a yes... This is after his statement a decade ago that the drought and empty dams (where...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Frackin dopey ABC radio reporter is out on the streets today, interviewing folks about what they think about "Neighbors" (tv show), and is also going; "OMG! It's 31 degrees in March; whaddya think about that!?" FFS; it was 35 degrees on my wedding day (March 26) in 1994.
  9. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Risk management for what? You are talking about doing something, and spending large amounts of money and time, to do something about which we have no control over.... The amount of energy, time, money, elections, promises, backflips, scientific reports, studies, protests and marches, etc -...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    I'm not saying GW or CC is impossible. It is possible, and has been happening - in both directions - since god's grandfather was a baby. I'm saying that if there is any of either; it is a natural occurrence and incremental anyway, and none of it caused or influenced by us silly humans to...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    1. Desalination plants (we have one ready to go). 2. Dams. (of course; the Greens will block every attempt, because an orange spotted, 6 toed frog was seen there and has to be protected). 3. Re-routing of excess rain run-off from places like QLD and Gippsland where it never stops raining. And...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    I think this was the chart I saw a few years ago. Look; even if the temp was rising, and even if the Climate was changing; it's sooo incremental in the wider scheme of things that we are turning into Chicken Little about it all. I mean; the planet is covers by 75% water - which is the...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Oh. :confused: I thought you were at Mt.Macedon? Who lives there, then? It was their personal charts from approx last 100 years (from father and grandfather as well), and they showed absolutely no pattern whatsoever of rainfall - either more or less. It was random - some years lots, some...
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    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    TC, can you please drag out those rainfall charts you showed us here a few years ago, and put LibGS out of his misery, please?
  15. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    The whole thrust of this mania which started some dozen or so years ago was only mentioned as Global Warming. Climate Change was not used at all. I remember it quite well; Al Gore, Tim Flannery and all the noisy others...GW! GW! CO2 is causing the world to heat up! What the hell are we gunna...
  16. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Yeah; and the rain started falling after we were gunna run out water, and.....
  17. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Are you talking about Global Warming, or Climate Change? How can you prove that Climate Change is real? Hasn't it already been said here by others that CC - things such as increased/decreased Tornedo, Wind, Rain, Clouds, Tidal Waves, Earthquakes, Thunderstorms etc - no apparent evidence to...
  18. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    So; a total variation from lowest to highest change from -0.1 to 0.5 (0.6 degree) over 44 years. Does this then mean that the projection would be for a 1.2 degree rise over 88 years, and so on? What were the figures in the preceding 44 years? Or 100 years?
  19. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    The comedy is not in the damage - that is disastrous in anyone's book. The comedy is in the various explanations for the damage - the GW disciples sprout on about the rising temps that cause the damage, but then in the above post where I've highlighted the sentence - they put some blame on...
  20. BayView

    do the greens need a lesson in economics? news.com.au article

    Not at all. If I really was a Troll, Sim and the gang would have shut me out of here years ago. I am not anti-science; just anti-blind faith. I'll tell ya what Lib; for the sake of the argument, I'll grant you that there have been some increases in the temp, and some increases in the...
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