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IV, Could you please define "intrinsic value" as you use it?? Most 'value' investing looks at things like EPS, NTA, ROE etc, what are your criteria?? bye

Hi all, IV, Exactly the same argument applies to company reports, in the fundamental approach. History is important in outlining the future, but even then it is extremely difficult to 'forecast', just look at the treasury forecasts from last years budget as an example, way out. bye

Should that apply to miners?? :p bye

Hi all, Graemsay, There is one fundamental difference between Greece and the US. The Greeks owe the debt in Euro and probably $US, they do not have the ability to come by more of them easily. The US debt is primarily in $US, hence they can just ramp up the printing presses to pay it off...

Hi IV, Aha, so investing eventually means to sell a particular stock. That means that it has been traded. Bought at some point then sold at another. This is trading. All stocks are bought with the eventual prospect of selling them at a profit. Trading and investing are the same thing...

Hi all, IV, What is the difference?? My research shows that over the long term all stocks have a 'life' and eventually die. Not many properties 'die'. bye