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Hi all, Random, Perhaps you need to look into the laws of thermodynamics, here's the first one.... Your 'engine' has to have a greater source of energy than it produces, the form may be different, but the fact stays the same. bye

Hi all, Interesting how the debate has turned to energy supply. Perhaps reading some of the stuff from "The Oil Drum" website, like this.... http://netenergy.theoildrum.com/node/4678 ... that talks about the energy returned on energy invested concept. random... This defies the...

Hi TC, I was thinking about starting a thread on it, you beat me to it. I pretty much felt exactly the same as you did except this bit... I would have been surprised if he was sober.:p What was he doing there?? comic relief, yet he does say some good things, in between the twaddle...