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Also there's a beast called a hybrid trust. I've read about them and they look interesting and offer effective negative gearing. Dale is cautious about them as there's no case law (correct me if I'm wrong, Dale) so that makes them a risker strategy if the ATO decides that they are solely a...

It's hard to negatively gear through a family trust. Maybe it wasn't ignorance speaking..... Not that I would suggest ulterior motives, of course. Bob