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1. Never argued for the loan? 2. Rationalised market theory would say that EU loans bad full stop, let them rot. 3. Why do you think the EU is trying to 'help' the Greeks? Loans are made to benefit the lender. Kick the can down the road just enough to liquidate the Greek assets, scrape...

Not possible to get Chinese citizenship unless you are Chinese.

Gold. :D Or we can just all learn mandarin. Is Rudd still free?

....The US debt to GDP ratio is above 80%+ and greece is 127%+. Can't get the exact numbers without a more thorough look.

We seem largely on the same page Tom, what I disagree with is the suggestion that defaulting will provide the Greeks with better lives. If you look at the local economy, take away the debt fuelled public sector and pensions, what do you have? I honestly don't think there is enough of a real...

1. They borrowed, they have to pay. To compare State finances to individuals is less than satisfactory, there are a multitude of problems with such an analysis. And you keep saying you would default? If you default in Aus, they would requisition a large portion of your wage for a long period of...

Jeez, even those studies from Greece made by GREEK people, golly, they must be insulting the mythical honest Greek people! And boy George, channel 7 gives references now in email form so you can post them on forums so easily? I must send them a Christmas card this year. "BURRRR HURRR IM...

Indeed, all Greeks are teetotallers. And tax dodgers, corrupt and the cause of their own problems. :)

I'm saying there is widespread tax evasion, to the tune of $20 billion a year: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704182004575055473233674214.html Even Greek academia have done significant research into the widespread tax evasion and corruption 'shadow economy'...

No, just decades of stigma, regression from the global market stage, blah blah blah. They're all just a bunch of tax dodging, socialist whiners. If default and can't rely upon foreign lending, they would actually have to rely upon their local economy. There's a joke, only so much olive oil...