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I'm saying that it's been a very long time since a Vendor had a property that I was interested in buying that actually came with a price tag attached. Obviously that tactic limits the upside for the Vendor.....which is bad for them and good for the Buyer. They aren't so stupid as to handicap...

Sorry you feel like that. Was just trying to point out that the major player in the transaction is the Seller, not the Buyer. As for your other assumptions, had no alcohol last night, and being in WA, the time posted on the forum bears no reflections on what time it was here when posted...

I see your nick is quite appropriate. Fortunately, that is not their concern. Obviously for them to keep control of the sales process. Have you never negotiated before ?? Good luck with !!! I haven't been handed that lot on a platter for over 15 years now. What other due...