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I'd prefer to let the people of Australia have their say on the Carbon Tax first. We haven't been given an opportunity to say whether we like it or not I'd disagree with that. 3 years is a full term of Parliament...lots can happen in that time. 3 years is a hell of long time to people...

I would of thought we all do Neil...in our own special way ?? I enjoy the lights on at night. I like a hot meal at night. I like driving my car. I like living in a house, especially in winter. I like using the myriad electrical devices in my home. I prefer flying across the country...

Thanks for that list.... I see that BHP have seven separate companies listed on that LEPID and Xstrata have at least 3. What is to stop the accountants and lawyers of those companies simply "breaking down" those entities even further, to the point where the individual entities don't exceed...

Thanks for that Hi Equity. Unfortunately I was looking for the list of 500 companies that will be liable. I also read the wormy worm statement at the base of the sheet (see below), which renders everything on the sheet completely and utterly useless. Does anyone have anything at all...

So, less than 3 weeks to go.... Has anyone got any idea who these 500 companies are yet ?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afv729hvmgw

.....but that's all it comes down to when you write such waffle, get caught out, don't even pause for a breath and then carry on waffling again...

....agreed - but it just wrecks the thread Sunfish, and anyone coming on here reading that spiffle he writes, if they don't know any better, might actually believe the smoke and mirrors charade he puts forward. It's disappointing when it's your thread, that's all. I just wish he'd go and...

Belbo, You've been caught out lying and twisting and contorting what I said, you admit as much, then go on to counter that regardless of what I said, someone else implied something completely different and that somehow reflects on me ?? Turn it up - you're a joke.

I said nothing of the sort and admitted nothing. Your ability to mis-quote and contort does you no good. What I said was, it would be difficult to maintain the rage amongst the public until early 2015.....but that was assuming of course that Labor Senators will vote against the changes...

Well, just on the subject of the Carbon Tax and it's removal, I had a very interesting conversation with someone yesterday who couldn't possibly be any closer to the process. I contended that the Liberal led Govt after the next election would struggle to get it's Bills thru a Senate, and it...

I didn't see that one Sunfish.....it was seen quite a bit in both NSW and Qld state elections, so may be true if the people polled were from those states. Hi - see my initial posts on page 1 of this thread for the likely scenarios. Most believe the House of Reps is a given cakewalk for the...

Cheers Peter, All of the info is so freely available now on all of the Govt websites. Whoever mans those things does a sterling job. Thumbs up for that kind of public servant....there are some good ones around !!! Of course, most normal folk like us out in internet land aren't in the...

Not by a long shot Buzz. It's the biggest thing - for sure, but certainly not the only thing. The list is monumentally long. The ALP backbenchers (and some on the front bench) are in a real pickle at the mo. As we saw with Qld, anyone with a margin in their seat of less than 15% is in...

The point of this thread....as the Carbon Tax was introduced without. It will be removed with democratic public approval though. :) Can't wait, bring on an election.

You really are a special child aren't you Belbo.... A journalist caught telling porkies with an unattributed quote means he's pulling that **** out of his ****. No-one on the Liberal front bench said anything of the sort. The article was nonsense, the supposed quote was an unattributed...

No, it's unattributed. No-one said anything of the sort.

Agreed - you are....that's a very silly question. What I meant was exactly what I wrote....no need for clarification unless you have some hidden agenda. Some people are better than others. Now, being a lawyer, you love to argue the toss, and you'll probably have a completely different...

Thanks for the link Belbo - I cannot believe that trash is passed off as political news.....I'm guessing the SMH is some left wing rag ?? The completely false and unattributed quote from some ghost frontbencher was particularly nice. My, Peter the journo has a fervent imagination. Can't get...

Hi Timothy, Thanks for your post. I agree with the majority of your points. No, I think we are fully aligned on this point. I certainly haven't been convinced there is a problem, let alone have the time (upwards of 30 years) to delve into the solutions - if indeed one is needed. It...

Good morning Belbo. Looking forward to the upcoming election ?? :D