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Carbon change is a big vision, but it was sold on a simplistic slogan. Greatest moral dilemma of our time? I wonder how long Rudd practised that in front of a mirror.

As John Howard said the other day, politicians these days have too much slogans, and too little vision. But hey the last time someone tried to do any meaningful economic reform - aka Workchoices - they were crucified. You get what you vote for.

As what some banks consider biger borrowers, my folks sometimes get to sit on the head table at various bank functions with their heads of private wealth or chief economists. Everytime they come back and tell me what the chief economist says, I realise 2 years later the market has done the opposite.

Thta's what they said about the last 4 years, and the previous decade too.

Let's just say enough have chosen onion rings that there's still a lot of pent up demand in the slightest dip

Over valued compared to what? Onion rings?

No, but I do post while I'm being paid :D By various lovely tenants of course

So much debate, but how much money is being made :confused: