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That's my goal if I ever hit around $800m. Otherwise, I'll just keep laughing at Clive and Kim (Dotcom).

That's true. They did give me my $6000 hand out though.

As a citizen of HK, obviously my view doens't count.

What everyone said is true. But don't forget rule of law is not the same thing as democracy. China had greatest rule of law under the monarchies of Hanwudi, Tangtaizong and Kangxi. There are also many countries with democracy but no rule of law today.

Erode the rule of law and businesses will go to, did you say Shanghai, where there was no British law to begin with? A trip to Hong Kong and Shanghai and it's obvious these two cities have done nothing but grow tremendously in past 10 years. What's the US' interventionist agenda here hmmm?

Just for the record, if I thought it was good for HK, I would happily watch my holdings there plummet by 30% (any more and I'd have to denounce my heritage haha). I'd even offer free accommodation to these students. They obviously don't have me convinced. And I'm from their generation.

Beanie Girl: you think too cynically of me. I actually think HK has the best of both worlds. Free market and rule of law. What are we going to do under democracy, vote for an anti-China leader so Beijing takes more away from the city and multinationals relocate to Shanghai, traffic and ports...

Hong Kong's pretty different because, as I expected, the citizens are now out in numbers cracking down on the students. Most HK people share my view. The police don't need to do anything. Of course, we'd never hear this in western media as they gear up for their containment, ahem...

Most people who are occupying Admiralty, cwb and mk are kids born in the 90s, spoilt with iphone6s and ps4s, never worked an honest day in their life, and trying to impose what they think is best for the city? In the meantime, not everyone in HK shares your view...

Not this protest. I was responding to a post about protests many months earlier, where Occupy Central organisers exaggerated the amount of support they had. Anyway, tonight the Anti Occupy Central force (ie the rest of the Hong Kong citizens) are coming out. We'll find out see who has more...

Well said. I don't see living conditions improved in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt. So much for USA democracy.

You only had 3000 people on the streets. Don't make things up please. The half a million is a figure the protest organisers made up. Everyone in HK knows.

Hong Kong does have freedom of speech and freedom of press. The most read newspaper (Apple Daily) is an anti-Chinese Government mouthpiece. So would you rather live in Baghdad with the right to elect your government, over Hong Kong?

Who you? Never see you make a contribution in this forum.

Some support it. Many don't too. I was actually just on a Hong Kong chat forum (largest one in Hong Kong). 58% of the people polled don't support the way the kids have handled the protests. Only 35% do. The rest don't know. Just because we aren't out on the streets holding an anti-protest...

I can understand too. Blocking major streets and disrupting the city is not the way to do it. Can you imagine if uni kids blocked off Pitt St, George St etc and basically made the Sydney CBD unfunctionable for weeks because Abbott is cutting Youth Allowance?

What's a fundamental human right? Would you rather be in Jakarta which has a right to vote, or Hong Kong which does not but has first world living standards? Hong Kong is not second best by any means. It is probably the top ranked international city in the entire Asia-Pacific region (yes far...

These kids ask for democracy. Yet they don't even know what that means. India has democracy - it's probably a more corrupt country with more nepotism than China. Most important thing in any country is rule of law, and by blocking major streets and disrupting the city, that's a breach of the...