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    Getting a Uni degree

    Unless you included a means tested component, we'd be subsidising mostly kids from wealthier families due to the disproportionately high marks private school kids achieve, particularly those from the most elite private schools.
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    Getting a Uni degree

    I'm sorry, I didn't intend to turn this thread political, especially since it's been so amicable so far. My last sentence was said slightly facetiously, hence the 'top 1000'. Nobody knows how much the fees would rise by if the changes made it through the senate - not the Greens, not Labor...
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    Getting a Uni degree

    Ok, that's actually very reasonable. Extremely reasonable. Obviously it's not an option for everybody, most will never achieve the grades or have the connections required to get into an Ivy League, but it's probably the best value for money given the reputation and CV brownie points. I...
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    Getting a Uni degree

    There are some fields which definitely do require a degree but I do wonder if we're doing a disservice to ourselves by making university the norm. It feels that the bachelor degree has become the new high school certificate which was the new year 10 once upon a time. When it becomes the...
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    Getting a Uni degree

    Harvard scholarships are extremely competitive and are only available to very high achievers. Anyone can attend community college. Sorry, just to clarify, I didn't intend to compare the cost of community colleges to private colleges, rather I meant to compare community colleges to 4 year...
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    Getting a Uni degree

    If done through a apprenticeship, there is no need to go to technical college to do a trade. You get paid (albeit not much) to learn. Also, community colleges are very inexpensive relative to university and are not 'often' more. In the wiki link it states: Average student loans in...
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    Getting a Uni degree

    We have one of the highest immigration rates in the Western world.
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    Getting a Uni degree

    No licensed tradesman (e.g. plumber, electrician, mechanic) earns $3 per hour in America. That is below minimum wage in all states. Mexicans earning $3 aren't qualified tradespeople - they are illegal immigrants working for illegal wages because they don't have the required papers to work within...
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    Getting a Uni degree

    In the US you have a situation where college graduates are flipping burgers. And this doesn't just apply to arts degrees and whatnot, but to people with degrees in law, IT etc.. Unemployment is much higher there and a higher proportion of people have degrees. Much more competitive. Another...
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