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I know quite a lot of people, both near and dear to me and otherwise, who live in "new" subdivisions on the outskirts of Perth, some 50km away from the CBD. When we want to visit or they want to visit us, it takes nearly an hour each way, so it doesn't happen very often. They don't actually...

TC I think you miss sanj's point, which is that while it may be cheaper to build the infrastructure, the problem is that relatively few people use it so it's far more expensive on a patronage basis. I sit overlooking the freeway running through Perth and I just spent a minute counting around 100...

I know. Sydney is so much better than Paris...