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I agree re The Lucky Country. It is still relevant. That's why there needs to be a shift away from tax cuts to all and sundry to targetted systems to actually increase the overall value of Australia on a global scale. Research and development, becoming a country of knowledge rather than a...

But, once again, this is a factor in all political parties. I'm not sure at the federal level, but the NSW Liberal party currently has some major issues regarding branch stacking, particularly in western and north-western Sydney. It's pathetic that they have followed the ALP down this line, not...

But how is this any different to any other political party operating within Australia? The public do not vote for a leader. They vote for a party that internally elects a leader. If (well, when) the Liberal party wins the election no one, except those living in the federal seat of...

I think I'm one of the few people on here that can actually say they voted against Abbott. Hate the way it is now a popularity contest of leaders when only those who live in the electorate actually vote for them. I don't trust my local Liberal candidate. Anyone who photoshops 20kg off...

Yeah, inciting the assassination over the change in leadership of the democratically elected political party is exactly what the military should be doing :rolleyes: We don't vote for the leader of the country. We vote for our local representatives, some of which may be the members of a...

I agree with Peter, Sanj and Dazz. I was originally thinking 44 seats (I think I said so back a few pages). I still see a Liberal victory - they don't necessarily deserve it, but they deserve it more than the ALP deserves to win it. But I am thinking low 60s for the ALP now. Puerile...

Kudos. Agree with all of that.

Might just have snatched a big defeat at the polls instead of a white wash.

He would support Rudd in terms of continuing parliament until the election. That's it.

Jeeze, they are pretty keen on keeping on fighting over who is going to be leading the losing side aren't they?

Yep. Not arguing with that. Just that there is divergent opinion. Not saying anyone is right or wrong. Be interesting to see how Joyce will go in the House. And it would be good to see a strong National party actually attempting to protect the interests of regional Australia.

Previous polls mentioned on here and elsewhere that, from memory, had him at 49% of the primary. But now he is no longer standing the argument over whether or not he would get re-elected is moot. So claiming that he would retain/lose his seat based on communications is neither here nor there.

Perfectly. As long as we are agreed that there are divergent opinions on it, hence the showing in the polls that showed him keeping the seat.

But a mate that lives and works in Tamworth has a different opinion to yours. Fancy that. Different people have different opinions!

A lot of people weren't happy with the perceived knifing of Rudd. And responded accordingly. But a lot of those dissatisfied people of the economically conservative but relatively socially liberal (in the true sense of the word) would not really consider voting for an Abbott lead party...

Forthe more conservative liberals yes. For swing voters I disagree.

If he wasn't such a divisive political figure, and wasn't leading the liberal party at the last election, they would have won, therefore no Carbon Tax.

Considering the crazed claims from the nuttier elements of the right about Gillard this is mildly amusing. As far as the Daily Telegraph is aware she is still under suspicion of being seen near the Chamberlain's campground at Uluru surrounded by some dingoes.

Katter would support Rudd from a parliamentary perspective.

One of the 43 they will retain. No basis on that number, I just think it hits the right kind of mark.