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    Rudd vAbbott

    And it is hardly the sign of stability that the economy needs.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    People see what they want to see.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Exactly. The way it should be. I'm gutted. I had a bet that they would get at least 61 seats. Hopeless optimist. Now I have to buy my liberal mate a slab of James Squire Amber Ale :mad:
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    Rudd vAbbott

    You do understand that the reasons for accepting refugees are vastly different that the reasons for accepting skilled migrants, right? Which is illustrated by the vastly smaller number of refugees accepted. It's common sense that people escaping from a war torn country will have less...
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    Rudd vAbbott

    I left out about 120 different countries. I have no personal experience of Afghani asylum seekers. Positive or negative. I have positive with Iraqi, Persian and Ethiopian asylum seekers. But, there is probably positive stories as well (this one is a bit old)...
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Persians (Iranians) are pretty pro-active as well. Same with Iraqi immigrants. Lots of focus on running small businesses and building wealth that way. Hell, I do work with a group of Ethiopians who came over here with nothing and now run a successful catering business. It all depends on...
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    Rudd vAbbott

    How do you define "good type"? Surely those Vietnamese asylum seekers who came over with nothing would be considered a "bad type" but their children, who contribute a lot to Australian society would be a "good type", right? So who draws the line, and where is the line drawn?
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Yep. And considering the ageing population, there needs to be younger people coming from somewhere. Otherwise the whole residential property market, the business sector and indeed the government as a whole is going to be in serious financial problems.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Or, have governments invest in infrastructure rather than middle class welfare.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    I see Liberals for a minimum 2 terms, possibly 3. But not Abbott.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Nah. It's only the other side that do stuff like that. When my side does it, it is sound and prudent policy ;)
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    Rudd vAbbott

    It's an issue because it shows fundamental lack of respect for the office as a whole. Now that may not worry you because you don't like the office holder at the moment, but it is a pretty pathetic move from the largest media organisation in the world. It's infantile, juvenile and just...
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    Rudd vAbbott

    It's pretty pathetic and hypocritical that a newspaper that is continually campaigning about having "respect" for elders and things like that acts in such a juvenile manner. It's laughable really. But the telegraph is just a rag.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    I have silent Sharon or someone I have no time for and who has photoshopped the hell out of their campaign posters (15 years younger, 25kgs lighter) but campaigning on "honesty in politics". I've tried to engage with both in regards to policy when they have been out and about, but could have...
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    Rudd vAbbott

    I do find it funny that some of those who are talking about the mining resource tax being a great big imposition on business don't have an issue with the proposed popping out sprogs tax for big business. I'm with Bayview on this. And that is something you don't hear every day.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    And then impose a new tax on big businesses to pay for a paid maternity scheme. How is that cutting revenue?
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Except if it is the Liberal Party proposing it to fund maternity leave. Then it is sound economic management :D
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    Rudd vAbbott

    No issues with that at all.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Does that mean those of us who avoided the issue and criticised his current policies can be smug now and ignore the past? But, I agree, the double standards are pretty pathetic.
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    Rudd vAbbott

    Yep, clumsily worded on my part. Alleged. If the candidate said that last week it would be actually worthy of consideration. But young kids do stupid things and say stupid things. To hold it against them 15, 20, 30 years later is not really helpful. Particularly when there are actual...
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