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not by passive investments agreed, but if one is more active and one has a firm view of value as opposed to market price then its not hard. Even our ex-Mr Packer Senior knew when to flip a beloved asset when the price was right. Only Mr Buffet tends to hold and keep and there are three...

Mate the billionaires get to that stage by counting their cash flow pennies (even if they don't scrooge on a personal level by the pennies). Just look at Deltaberry's logic (ie yourself) on this forum, or Dazz for that matter.

I don't understand the point, there is a vast difference between 4% and 9%.