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sorry no, i definately am not suggesting in anyform a 20 year downturn, or anything vaguely like that duration. My view is for property to underperform for the next 5 years and possibly up to 10 years. The 20 year mention was merely to highlight that regardles what prices are today, they...

yeah its interesting with silver at the moment, yes its a PM, but its 'beta' in very recent times tends to be more correlated with risk on/risk off trading than with perceived fundamentals, could this be due to speculators, time will tell. Gold seems to be the more stable brother.

i would say that the 'average investor' is giving alot of thought to those rats behinds. Why? because whilst its true that in 20 years time, prices today will probably be irrelevant, one needs to be able to hold for those 20 years. Judging by the evolution of Somersoft over the last 3 years...

I am 100% positively certain that hobo-jo does not envy successful property investors. He is merely happy to invest in multiple asset classes, including property, at the right time. At this point in time he feels that there will be better returns in precious metals than in residential...

NO IT IS NOT A CRASH, an asset that moves up sharply within a short period of time and then corrects back down is not a crash, so long as the major trend is intact. Look at the overall trend of silver. And no i dont have any positions in silver/gold whatever.

actually in my opinion, this is what i was trying to say, but in much better wording.

I totally 100% agree with you hobo. Affordability does not equate to a 'mansion' or an inner city house. But it does equate to being able to buy something reasonable (maybe a unit in the inner city, a house in the middle/outer rings) etc etc, and on a medium income level. But whatever...