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    ah yes reduction in electricity consumption, one of the more funny ways that was suggested by some government body, or electricity company: *hug your pets more often to share body warmth and save on heating costs. Oh yeah boy o boy talk about great leaps in human productivity.
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    because maybe the majority of australians are more intelligent than you give them credit for, now they they are starting to feel the impact of cost of living pressures. Yes a number of people will receive income tax reductions. But they are questioning whether the amount of tax benefit will...
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    And therein lies your answer, the devil is in the details of the policy. Your argument is like saying that every country imposes tax, so its irrelevant which political party is in power. Over the weekend i read another crazy part of the carbon tax in its current form. Apparently because...
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    picture of Julia Gillard doing the rounds today amongst some stock brokers (you can tell business must be bad when there is more interest in trading jokes, than trying to flog shares:D)
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    You have hit the nail on the head. It might not be discussed in this light by Mr & Mrs Average, but its very much present in the minds of the institutional foreign investment community. Australia's sovereign risk level has increased dramatically. This is not good, as it effects the marginal...
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    You can say all you like. One can talk politics till the cows come home, but its all just qualitative opinions. At the end of the day the electrorate will speak, and thats all that counts, the quantitative measure that will determine politics. But its all good, i think on one hand you...
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    Again who gives a toss. They can conduct all the studies they like, the people will decide at the next election, and as always they will decide based on what has happened to them in recent times. Its really quite beautiful how symmetric things go.
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    what about those that are on adsl2 plans with unlimited dowloads for around $80 per month. Will these plans still exist after the NBN?????? I have no idea whether they will or not. But if they dont, then this will just provide another nail in the coffin for the current government.
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    Maybe Julia Gillard just needs to sit down listen and decipher 'O Fortuna'
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    Again who cares, if australia's economy continues to go through a rough patch in 2012 (which i think it will, there are many structural adjustments occurring which have nothing to do with the carbon tax (the carbon tax just increases uncertainty, and further reduces productivity)...
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    Who cares the people dont want it now, pure and simple, not in anything relating to its current form. All Abott needs to do is keep banging on the negatives.
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    All this talk about carbon tax is rather funny. So many of the arguments involve qualitative issues, and qualitative issues depend very much on ones personal judgement. Hence the issue will not be resolved via 'debate'. Its a bit like abortion or prolife. Whats even more funny is how...
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    All this discussion about being based on $23 tonne. This is just the intial price. How does the cost impact over time as the carbon tax price increases?
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    i wouldnt bet on that, cost of living pressures are rising in every state. Interesting article in the AFR today re NSW state owned power generation assets which are not covered in the compensation scheme. They want compensation for both the increased opperating costs and for the loss in...
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    ah i new i remembered it from somewhere: From another part of morningstar: Regulated Utilities – SKI and SPN All carbon taxes will be passed on to the end users as mentioned in previous regulatory rulings, hence will not impact earnings. Gas transmitters APA Group (APA), Hastings...
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    thats my point, if the returns are regulated and the ability to pass on any carbon tax cost is part of the 'cost', then that cost can be passed on to achieve a regulated return.
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    One potential sector to invest in under this category is the energy transmission sector (think electricty wires, gas pipelines). The prices are regulated, but from my initial understanding, their pricing contracts allow for price increases from any carbon tax.
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    Furthermore australia's lowest income quintile would never vote liberal. It may fluctuate between labour/green/what ever other socialist party. So its pretty irrelevant, what proportion of votes move around in this quintile (although it will effect the absolute numbers of the relevant...
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    HiEquity i can tell you are an 'employee'. This is not just about tax collected, but also the cost imposition. Look at the overall cost structure to get us to that position. Again it gets back to productivity.
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    And further more all this talk about employee wages being 'balanced out'. What about businesses? If business profits get squeezed from reduced productivity then eventually this gets passed down to employees, through reduced employment. Some businesses are price makers, and they will just...
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