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  1. J

    So much for global warming

    I once read that the perfect symbol of the decadence of consumerism is the empty drink container lying in the street. Discarded because it was no longer useful. The point being that only a consumerist culture would not see another use for an empty container. I don't absolve the polluters at...
  2. J

    So much for global warming

    Not sure what you mean Sunfish. But taking one slant, I don't see somersoft as a 'get rich beggar my neighbour' type site, tho doubtless there are some unfeeling capitalists here lol, maybe even slum landlords, but I see the sociopathic corporation as a totally different entity. These are the...
  3. J

    So much for global warming

    I'm afraid the global warming debate looks like economics to me - in every sense of the word - and apart from a consensus that 'things are changing', no-one knows much more, but in true human fashion we'll interfere with it until we figure it out. I think the major issue in the world is not...
  4. J

    So much for global warming

    Well in the Seventies, scientists WERE worried about an Ice Age and suggested actions to prevent it. http://www.prisonplanet.com/scientists-considered-pouring-soot-over-the-arctic-in-the-1970s-to-help-melt-the-ice-in-order-to-prevent-another-ice-age.html One of those conspiracies everywhere...
  5. J

    So much for global warming

    None of this matters because IT is working. On radio this morning a caller was asked by the announcer - 'how's the weather' or words to that effect. Answer: 'A bit overcast, but that's global warming I suppose' - and not a trace of irony. The sheep have been converted to the concept...
  6. J

    So much for global warming

    Trouble is the wealthy have no rule book http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/jan/24/travelsenvironmentalimpact.carbonfootprints I don't care how the rich spend their money but I do mind when it impacts directly upon me - and ditto for socialist pollie rulebooks with stupid rules.
  7. J

    So much for global warming

    They used to charge Registration on basis of distance from GPO so that utiliities and 4WD vehicles in the countryside paid less - do they still do this? A differential on registration with a differential tax at the pump might be a way for the government to encourage more sane car use and...
  8. J

    So much for global warming

    So true. Witness the increase in water rates rewarding the reduced water consumption in Victoria.
  9. J

    So much for global warming

    I'll vote for you Witzl. But your list was also put forth, almost word for word on the vehicle issues almost 40 years ago when the 1970's oil crisis killed off the large car market for a while. Because we never learn we ended up with the 4WD market to replace it of course.
  10. J

    So much for global warming

    Kev will run on the ETS same as Howard ran on the GST and we'll end up with another regressive tax scheme that pushes the poorer further down the hill because, just like the GST was, the ETS will be hidden in the fine print of how tragic the Libs would be in power. I've voted Labour all my...
  11. J

    So much for global warming

    hear hear. ETS taxation is a danger to us all. Never been a fan of the libs but they've won a few points with me if they scuttle this legislation. Now let's see the politicians come up with a scheme to improve our carbon emissions without just imposing a new and ineffectual tax. How...
  12. J

    So much for global warming

    The argument on climate change is different to the argument on an ETS that is going to impact Australia greatly but the rest of the world in a minute way. My father had an expression: As much value as a ha'penny of gin in a bucket of cold water. Rather than tax households, if they were...
  13. J

    So much for global warming

    Hands up all who think that politicians are visionaries. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/01/australias-csiro-tries-to-squelch-a-dissenting-view-on-carbon-trading/ and read this opinion as well. I couldn't agree more...
  14. J

    So much for global warming

    Considering what Brazil did to the Amazon Basin when they owned it, that might not be such a bad thing.
  15. J

    So much for global warming

    and another point on 'the apocalypse' Theories on the end of the world should be respected. They've been happening for thousands of years.
  16. J

    So much for global warming

    Conspiracies!! Interesting article in the Melbourne Herald Sun on this very topic - with reference to a single world governement. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/kevin-rudds-7b-un-wrangle/story-e6frfhqf-1225794045942 I agree entirely with the perspective of corruption when these sort...
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