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  1. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    I see XBX's point, though. It's a good boundary condition to illustrate when it is not appropriate to use a cash-bond. Steve, this raises another interesting question - would you ever recommend using a cashbond for a low-growth property if that property was cashflow positive? (I was...
  2. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    1. This is a chicken-and-egg problem. Essentially the bank needs to be convinced (or it put in writing etc) that the LOC in fact will be used to purchase a cashbond, and the ability to service the LOC will be created by the purchasing of that cashbond. Steve tells us that you can in fact...
  3. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    Segue The problem with the word "segue" is that it looks nothing like its pronounciation: seg-way. Hear it often enough on TV and radio... Steve: Yep, I understand what you're saying now :). A bit like the old business adage of "you have to spend money to make money"... You have to...
  4. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    Steve: I was quite surprised by your answer to this question. Perhaps I misinterpreted it. I would have thought that for a property portfolio to be "pulling its weight" then all of the properties within it must be pulling their weight. A Cash Bond should be just as useful to apply to a...
  5. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    Bill L: I was simply using your figures on the cost of holding that Carnegie property. You said $11.5K pa so that's what I used. Yes, it could be $13.5K or $20K - only the purchaser can decide what is reasonable. An important point, however, is that in your original example you allowed...
  6. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    Certainly some fund managers have better accomplishments than others but no-one can guarantee that they are going to be able to make money in a particular market since that is controlled by forces that the fund manager can't control. And we're also told that past performance is no guarantee...
  7. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    Bill: Heres my take on your example: 1. It is illogical to buy an annuity returning $35K per annum over 5 years when all you need from it is $11,500pa to service the property. 2. So, let's get more realistic about the cashbond we'd need in that example. Assuming an interest rate of 6%...
  8. K

    Navra Cashbond?

    (Sorry, not a guru) But when I played with some numbers on cashbonds it became apparent quite quickly that a lot of your capital is also getting eroded in something like a vicious cycle simply to pay the interest bill on the loan which created the cashbond in the first place. Using rough...
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