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APerry, very good points, although what I'm finding in the market of late is that agents are out there saying "big non refundable deposits" and "never use options" (cause they want their commissions up front) whereas developers are saying "not on your life until we get a DA and know we can do...

CFP - well blow me down and hornswaggle me. what a dark and dastardly tale me hearty. You know that comes as no surprise to me at all - I am waiting for the day when these guys meet their maker..

LMAO that's gold. Fringe.. fringe dweller? fringe movement? oh the irony..

true true...but then would it be a surprise if these guys were all in with each other? Hmm.. now that would be a story wouldn't it.. the truth is out there :eek:

LOL Peter, but then again when you have 400 people in a room at $5k a head and pushing $15 and $25K 'mentoring' programs.. are you really even a developer at that point? Or just a seminar spruiker saying your'e a developer so you can get more people into a seminar to be developers etc etc...

Ok I've done the HS course and been working (or trying to) work with options for the last 2 and a bit years. I now no longer have anything to do with Massland or anyone associated with them. My experience with Massland, including dealing with a number of their former staff members/deal...