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You couldn't make it up if you tried. Slightly off topic but did you read about the other deal they did yesterday with Malaysia, we pay to send 800 asylum seekers to Malaysia and we pay to house them, medical, etc, for ever, and we also pay to have another 4000 asylum seekers shipped to...

You don't need to listen to a Czech president to work out that this climate change tax is all a conspiracy by left wing fabian socialists and watermelons to redistribute wealth.

I think she is hell bent on destroying the Australian economy. When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

I believe the one I can trust, that doesn't have a vested interest in getting a easy job or easy cash. I also trust my judgment that if the water heater is cold it isn't necessarily due to an inbuilt thermostat and the best way to fix it is with a complete new solar water heater system when it...

So if it was said over 3 and a half years ago you would say it is not relevant eh? In which case why do you keep harping back to what Howard said 10 years ago?

Originally Posted by NedKelly View Post Perhaps not. If industry knows they are going to be taxed progressively more and more each year then they would probably look to offshore their operations to a country with no Carbon Tax (and lower labor costs as well). Don't blame the Liberals, these...

Perhaps not. If industry knows they are going to be taxed progressively more and more each year then they would probably look to offshore their operations to a country with no Carbon Tax (and lower labor costs as well).

So the millions given to the UN for climate change has nothing to do with the carbon tax? You could run as a labor MP with that crap. Of course it has and the $600M, that is just the start. I know quite a few people in Brisbane who could do with some of that $600 million rather than a bunch of...

Australia is giving, going to give about 10% of the money it collects in Carbon Tax to the UN but because it is not specifically stated that it comes from the Carbon Tax and is "fungible" it could come from any tax the government collects. Maybe some of it will come from the Flood Levy or the...

So the government is going to give the UN $600 million a year for two years out of carbon tax it hasn't yet collected and you think that after the fast start they are going to stop giving our money away when they do start collecting carbon tax?

So it's complete rubbish is it shifty? You should firstly go here to find out where the government is planning to give away it's ill gotten tax, I presume you will accept publications from the governments own website as true:-...

O.K. shifty. Calm down, don't get you knickers in a twist. I read it on yahoo news, here is the link:- http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/latest/8916664/carbon-tax-billions-to-help-poor-nations/ Go and use your fine intellectual talents over there.

Yes, Rudd signed it up during one of his best lobster and fine wine junkets in Cancun.

If that is the case why don't they convert the old coal power stations to burn gas instead of coal. Presumably the turbines would still be OK. All they need to do is change the burners. That must be one hell of a lot cheaper than starting 10 new bureaucracies and buggering up the economy. And it...

Why would anyone buy carbon credits when you can get them here for free? http://www.freecarbonoffsets.com/genCert.do

I don't think anyone will forget that Julia is nothing more than a Liar.

This is what worries me. When this happens and temperatures start to drop through the natural cycle we will be getting all the pollies saying how wonderful they were to introduce the tax and save the planet.

Poor kids, having a ******** like Tony Windsor for a father.

I thought we were mostly water.

There will be a larger loss to the government than is being stated. Regardless of the hugh bureaucracy, 10% of the tax is being paid over to the UN's climate change fund. This was something Rudd agreed when he was PM.