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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    1) Reiterating that this is not certain. I may be wrong; a court might find it's reasonable for a landlord to position and test alarms themselves. I doubt it, but I may well be wrong. Even if they did find that, the landlord would have to justify how they chose the alarms, positioning, etc. and...
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    Nobody. Sometimes **** just happens. It isn't always somebody's fault.
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    Are you a lawyer? Are you suggesting that there is a non-delegable duty of care by landlord towards tenants, or are you suggesting that a court would find that employing a smoke alarm company was an unreasonable action by the landlord? :confused:
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    If a tenant doesn't report faults, the owner would almost certainly not be liable. The owner doesn't "have to" pay for an inspection to be done, it's a matter of how willing they are to take the risk of being a defendant in a negligence action. The main risks to a landlord in a negligence...
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    You won't get charged; you can only get charged for violation of statute. Your common law duty in negligence is tested as per the questions I outlined, and there hasn't yet been a test case. Statutory law prevails over common law where they contradict, but there is no statute that says...
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    I say again: that's statute. The common law duty of care in negligence is the same Australia-wide, and is likely higher than the minimum statutory requirement.
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    That's the statutory obligation only. The common law obligations are the same nationwide.
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    Sure there are. Professionals are people who do this for pay. I didn't say "qualified experts". You are suggesting that the duty of care by a landlord to a tenant is non-delegable. I'm pretty confident that whilst this is true for duty of employers to employees, schools to students, hospitals...
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    With regard to expertise, it's less important that they actually have any expertise, than that they are a business who is insured to perform the service. If you've hired somebody who says they're an expert, you - as a landlord - are in the clear in any negligence action. (Unless you knew they...
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    I couldn't find any relevant caselaw. It could happen if a tenant reported a broken bulb that the landlord agreed to have changed (e.g. non-standard bulb, up high, or something), and the landlord failed to do it in a reasonable timeframe and the tenant subsequently had a trip or something due...
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    Fair enough, but I wonder how many inspected homes would be compliant. The home I'm currently renting isn't; it doesn't have alarms in every bedroom.
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    The battery and functioning seems like the lower risk aspect; are you confident about the adequacy of the number, type, and location of your alarms?
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    You wouldn't, in that circumstance.
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    Pay for Smoke Alarm Maintenance & Inspection: Yay or Nay???

    My take here: http://somersoft.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1274898&postcount=1
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