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You missed my point.... When I referred to little guys I was referring to creditor not debtor. Thus, if big creditors like banks cannot get anything from professional bankrupts (like BondY) then we should accept that and move on. I agree some small operators have assets worth chasing but...

Agree, without clear details you are wasting your time and if bankrupt, even then. Remember Alana Bond wen t up and paid 1.5c in $1 to get our he is presently worth $800M. If expert big boys cannot get his cash, us little guys have no hope. Peter

Sadly, professional scammers are just that, professional and they will play you ( as I have been played) like a violin. Always nothing in writing unless it helps them. Promises made but never delivered. Always a reason, mums sick, dog died, kids broke arm.... I worked for a guy just like...