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  1. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Agree but on Julia I think she will be remembered as a puppet of those in power with no position of her own, willing to go back on commitments when it suited her without a shred of shame. Peter
  2. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Actually I saw Clive on Q @ A and I think: he is not a looney he is Richard Branson type, all publicity is good he is sharp as tack he cuts through rubbish he laughs at himself he drives home points. he chewed up the female Green Senator with simple facts and quesiton which i note...
  3. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    yes, Kevin can retire as PM saying this: See I saved your **** "She" was disaster Had you never dumped me, we would still be in charge For him a massive win. For Her a massive fail. Peter
  4. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Agree but the average voter , sadly, does not remember that when voting.:confused: i.e. My mum liked Howard because he was nice and did a lot for pensioners She didn't like Costello because he smirked. :rolleyes: Trying to explain to her, as Treasurer, Costello had as much, if not more...
  5. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Ideo. Michael valid point is what was once a power struggle is now mates looking after mates in the ALP. Rudd can be flicked any time. Regardless of how good or bad he runs the shop. The Libs don't flick the leader. As for Billy McMahon we are talking 1971. 42 years ago and the details are...
  6. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Hang on. I thought we were slum lord/fatcats/tax evaders???
  7. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    +1. Rudds a temp.
  8. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Amazing :eek: Change the leader. Does that mean: Rudd is that liked? or Gillard is that loathed? or Abbot is that unelectable Not a change in policy announced as far as I know, yet all is different.:confused: Peter
  9. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Makes the $8 look good hey, Peter
  10. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Irrelevant. As Irrelevant as are Liberal Men more handsome. Why don't we all vote for High Jackman and Nicole Kidman. Looks are irrelevant: give me honesty, intelligence and integrity to do what is right than what is easy anyday. Peter 14.7
  11. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Agree Sanj and with Dazz. Sadly the system is that the voters in few seats , decide who is in charge. Often they are in edge of the cities where the main politics of boat arrivals, welfare, etc are more of interest that economic security and political vision. Is this democracy? It would...
  12. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Perhaps the rise of the Katter and Palmer parties will mean more on merit? Personally like Adam Brandt GREEN ethics. Peter
  13. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Ok to confuse most, I support this rise IF they lost the overly generous benefits. GOld Card this and that, etcccccc I belvie they did. Ignoring skill and ability but applying duties/ responsibility and stress any back bencher should be paid $200k IMO. Peter
  14. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Kudos to your HE, I agree, we the people let this happen, Peter
  15. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    In my experience those who become Pollie love the job. The social, the power, the Tom, Dick etc..and if they are genuine they can set the agenda on how they are perceived and treated. It is when they are Hypocritical that the issues arise. Saying "respect my family privacy call" and then...
  16. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    In reply HE, the super was so good because in the old days it was assumed you would have upset everyone and you gave up a viable business / job to enter parliament and could not return to it. It was also based as well a lower life expectancy and shorter working period on leaving. Nowadays for...
  17. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    Dazz, I agree with your call re what they should be paid, which is more when in the job. I disagree with the overly generous super payout and perks. No company would pay for free air fare, office, car for an ex CEO for the rest of their life. Super at 66% final salary indexed for life...
  18. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    In case you wondered, and ex Prime Minster who retire, be they Liberal or Labour gets the following: An annual pension of $371,572.50. However, legislation to prevent windfall superannuation gains following massive pay rises for politicians last year modifies the payout to about $200,000 a...
  19. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    +1 I also think it will be close if they do go quickly. Peter
  20. Peter 14.7

    ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?

    OMG indeed!
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