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Good post Ozperp and good follow up post Gary. Unable to administer kudos to either of you; I must spread some around first. Our survival and our pursuit of happiness should really form the foundation of our own value system...........design our life by our own means with our own standards...

The virtue of selfishness Ahh........ but one needs to make it all about "me" or "I" before one can make it about anybody else.............one cannot help the poor, sick, disempowered. etc., by becomeing one of them There is a virtue in selfishness ;) Make it about oneself before...

.....and you shall be culled to the "norm" And there will be many who will (try to) harvest your height (and aspirations/ambitions) lest you show them up. Whoever has heard Rick Otton speak of Warrior nations veruses Convict nations will understand this. Australia for the most part was...

All natural Rain.........all natural, except for the pollutants :p :D