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Yep. Most car dealers (not all - and I know some good ones) only know how to make a sale by dropping the price :eek: I have really wanted a car in past instances. But I do the straight poker face, bored look reasonably well I think, (well enough to fool most car sales people). So we talk...

Hire a Motor Vehicle Buyer's Agent :D Hey, people do it for property and these guys do it for cars. I am pretty sure (??) that they charge the dealership for their fees though, not you.