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And I would say that the way people relate to others is nature - not something learned. And this then influences the way others react with them. Of course, socialisation is important but it can only socialise (ie moderate or 'train') what is already in existence.

Nurture is a major factor, but some kids (thankfully very few) must also have bad genetic programming because I know of a few families where the parents seem your average, hard working and honest people, but the kids are heavily into nasty activities. As for Carl Williams ex; have to agree...

It struck me as ironic that people are saying how people should not get murdered in prison. And that the family may get compensation as a result. Hell, people get murdered in the streets and in their homes, but prisoners should be kept safe in a gaol full of murderers and rapists? Anyone who...