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If you pay for, or gift, on the relative's requirement to hold on trust for your kids then this is not a testamentary trust as it is already held by your relative as an inter vivos trust, or maybe even a debt of their estate. This will not qualify as excepted income. Gifting to your elderly...

Testamentary trusts are brilliant for passing wealth through generations. The only problem is that you have to die first. Cheers, Rob