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how many of these are revenue neutral? and why isn't the green movement fighting meat eating just as furiously as carbon emissions, if they really are genunine and informed about global warming?

So Obama is so convinced of the economic benefits of a carbon tax, he is going to price it when?

The Europeans are "doing" what exactly? trading a fixed amount of carbon credits at a low price, in a highly elastic global economy? This is the con of ETS. In April 2006, EU ETS carbon permits were trading at 1 euro after dropping from 30. So the market, much of which is derivative, was...

What happens to carbon trading after Durban? "And Europe's carbon price has not been in parity with Australia's $23 a tonne price since June and now sits at about $10 following a downward price trend.As long as the EU's emissions trading scheme accounts for 97 per cent of the global carbon...

Well ng only exists because socialist govts, driven by dill ideologies, are too incompetent to provide the biggest low class handout of them all - cheap rental housing. Hence they con/entice the naive to buy IPs, charge less than what it costs to hold, and gamble on credit bubble driven...

How about some facts on the failure of Copenhagen, and the failure of the global carbon trading market. How about the fact that a carbon tax of at least $40 a tonne is required to make the next most viable alternative to coal (gas) competitive.

is this before or after Shorten proposed scrapping super tax for low income earners?

well, may be time for a new thread about the next big Labor tax (you see this one wasn't enough)......and that is 12% superannuation contributions. Yup, the govt thinks you are 33% more stupid than last year, so they are going to take that much more of your money and give to smarter people to...

yup, we're better off by 2million plasmas...at least. in fact, what I just don't get is if Labor are so economically astute, and care about equal opportunity, etc etc, why don't they stop selling mining licenses to the Chinese, and develop the mines themselves....in addition to buying back all...

I love Labor rhetoric. "Oh it isn't a tax on clean voters and battlers. No not at all. It's a tax on our biggest polluters. Big mega profit corporations who can well afford it. We are going to take the money from them and give it to the battlers. " :D

How about the State govts triple stamp duty and abolish tax deds on IPs to raise even more tax. After all, it is being given back to tax payers. :rolleyes: