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if the majority is only offered a choice between green apple and red apple, what do you do if you want an orange?

average for the century is very good measure :rolleyes: i lived in countries where people don't have an option to vote. trust me, they don't suffer at all

you are correct i wouldn't protest. because there is no significant difference between liberals and labor, and no one else has a chance to come to power and be able to change something. i bet you if elections weren't compulsory we would only see about 30-40 percent attendance anyway cause...

what about millions that didn't? why do thousands think they can decide for millions?

the reason people compare it to war torn countries is because those countries weren't war torn before protests started there. they became war torn as a direct result of protests. so to continue your analogy, what if there were protests like you suggest, but as a result radicals came to...

so if you so smart tell us, why so many people who invest in china wouldn't invest in HK? :D

business doesn't care about freedoms, they only care about profits and risks. if slavery was more productive than current system, it would still be a very common occurrence in all the democratic countries. just like it was in the country that invented democracy :D

briefed by whom? wait, you are not suggesting that the protests are organised by someone external? :D

you are right. i don't know anything about HK except that they have been rented out to UK for 99 years. but i've seen the same scenario happen in many countries. the tragic thing is that most people do actually think they are fighting for freedom.

it's hard to be wrong here, it's the same scenario repeated again and again. 1) students protesting, with lots of media coverage and support from certain 'democratic' countries 2) police tries to disperse them 3) things heat up, lots of clashes with police, more people get involved 4)...

i'm not a fan of them. what i'm saying is that whatever comes after them as a result of these fights for freedom is usually 100 times worse

that's what everyone thought about ukraine, until they started throwing molotovs at police

don't see you rushing to live in Lybia or Egypt

so you got nothing to object? thought so :rolleyes:

the protests got nothing to do with freedom, it's just an event sponsored by USA to cause trouble for China. Lets go through some examples: 1) Egypt - They ousted Mubarak. Who came to power? Islamists. After some time people got sick of their "freedom" and asked military to take charge...

imagine the commies decided to stage violent protests in Australia, because they don't get representation in parliament would you still support them and go fight for it?

when was the last MAJOR government change in Aus? 1800's?

Think Syria, Ukraine, Lybia This is how it's gonna go unless the protests are dispersed quickly.