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Dont speak too soon TC, dont you know the Ice Age is coming...? LOL..!

Ha ha, you do get it! Now, back to Australia's coolest summer on record.

Obviously. But no one disputes aboriginal histories handed down do they. That was my point. Or do they, expert.?

Think you'll find they go way back further than that Marc...have you not studied just a little anthrapology..? Dream time, never never...you know...? Any way, we know there has been an ice age, so stands to reason a hot age could be coming, but to blame man alone is rather presumptious and...

Id be intrigued to find that out. However, I was relating the handing down of lore thru generations of all or any language/race, not specific to this topic, but nonetheless relevant to historical records...no?

Not last summer, but many summers as far as one can remember and told also told by forefathers and their forefathers as against inaccurate readings adjusted by CSIRO/Govt to allow for whatever they think appropriate to suit their agenda. Scientifically challenged as opposed to logically...

My Sister & partner have a farm in that wheat belt and I really dont know how they ever made a living on just 9 inches of rain per year.:confused: if it didnt fall just at the right time then that year would be a write off. Often it just didnt fall. The whole area is dotted with salt lakes...

Who is forcing anyone to sit in front of the TV all day...? There is a thing called outside and there is also a thing called playing outside. Also, who is forcing people to eat rubbish food in front of the TV all day long..? I cant believe and dont accept we are responsible for saving...

Well....Id' have to agree with that HE. Moderately move towards doing something but try the best to make it the right thing for all. Im fine with that. But not with that scaremongering you mentioned, as you already know, it switches people completely off side. Im all for cleaning the joint...

HE..politicians will do what they want not what the people want. That's been the way for millenium....anything new here? Re predictions: No you didnt make any predictions but the scientists you trust and rely on do and you agree with them 100% dont you? Anyway, like Rolf said, discussing...

True on both counts. Well said.

Really...? How do you know this? Oh, that's right, just your opinion, sorry...fair enough.;) But my opinion is it may not be ugly it could very well turn out to be very very beautiful. Why not? God or he/she/it will make things right Im sure.:)

From HE's quoted link above: Land-based temperature measurements are adjusted according to mathematically-based and widely accepted statistical techniques. Adjusted to do what? Standardise...? OK..then next sentance says: Land-based temperature measurements are also independently verified by...

Correction...from the BOM website 0.9 deg increase since....wait for it....1910. Lol...burn baby burn The bit I don't like and trust the most is the future forecast....that's just it, a forecast and we all know how accurate weather forecasts are don't we? Could be hotter even...but...

What a load of rubbish. One of the coolest summers I and friends and family and anyone around here have experienced apart from a couple weeks of heat wave (which everyone knows is part of summer) and also shaping up as one of the wettest. We've never had so many consecutive summers like the...