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If the "people" would only listen to the media and think about things a bit....especially the phrase "faceless men". That's why I call them "low info" voters.:rolleyes: They are up for all the media hype on personalities at the top but fail to recognise that political parties are governed by...

I keep saying: Bill Shorten has been pulling strings for years angling his way to the lodge. He is the only common denominator since Rudds stabbing and he is the one most are shocked about his turning around to "support" Rudd. This is long term stuff and he is young enough and patient...

And pretty much how Labor is operating nowadays. All out attack on Abbott now but still no date. Gutless.

He didnt lose, it was 50/50 with Indys deciding who got the gig. They are all but gone and the nations patience with Labor is broken. Lets get some decent management in and fix the bloody mess. Abbott & Co are up to it, been there done that, tough love but it works. Then Labor can come back...

You mean the low information voters ?

Thankyou very bloody much Labor, so we miss the Strate of Origin lead up which is far more interesting than your pathetic stouch that will go down in history. Down deeper down. Absolutely pathetic FMD:mad:

Probably consulting with W Swan...? He wont appear until the dust settles, neither will Swan.

Bill Shorten comes in to the playbook just like i said before. He's now got behind Rudd, pushing him out there, go on, you go forward mate, Im right behind you.....yeah with a knife.:rolleyes: oh dear poor buggers I said a long time ago that Bill Shorten is the playmaker here and will be the...

Ha haa, yeah, uhmmm whats his name, Swan, that's it, he's been quiet.;)

Isnt Rudds seat one of the safer ones..? Isnt this thread about that? What a disgrace. Talk about being childish. So if Rudd wins tonight, does he get a second copy of his portrait up on the wall in Parliament house, bookending JG...? Terrible scenario, but funny at the same time.

Sentiment has changed somewhat Ideo, where have you been mate? He was on a flogging along with Labor at the next election no matter who leads. Another cringeworthy challenge...geeeeeze! Lips are pursed too I see. Anyway, the one and only poll, the poll of all polls is coming and beginning...

Lay down misere.

What polls and when? The only poll that will tell is in Sept and he wont be there. So last poll always counts does it? I dont think so and neither do you if you are serious.

Did I say all people in New England? Didnt think so.:rolleyes: Of course there are different opinions yet mine and those who agree with it does not seem acceptable on here for some reason. Many voters who went with Windsor (i didnt) last election now feel betrayed. Yes he did some...

So I and many other locals from New England dont count? He went with Labor, in a very conservative electorate. People have been beying for his blood mate. How could you tell anything from Adelaide? Im right here just a few klms from his place and have been for decades.

One things for sure and was always a sure thing for this election, New England will be Nationals again. So, whos got the count on possible seats left for Labor with KR as leader?

But you had your say on them just now didnt you? The topic is how many seats will the ALP get. It's all relevant to the discussion as A & G are leaders of the major parties. I know Windsor personally and am calling his bluff. My opinion along with many others I can tell you. But...

What like Gillard?

And Tony Abbott hasnt had to put up with anything has he? Oh no......:rolleyes: Or is it simply he has more spine to take it? I might add JG has some spine too just to balance things out.;) Afterall, they are both still there and plugging on.

He "says" health issues. I very much doubt it. Was on a flogging to nowhere if he ran. I know, I live in the electroate and know whats going on here mate. Health issue is merely strees on the wife & son as he mentioned. On one likes being hated by all and sundry around you. And that...