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See my post above for my dream "recreational vehicle" :D 270 HP thru a 6 speed gear box, self locking diffs front and rear, and 6 piston brembo's to bring it to a stop..... FYI, the specs are at http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/motorsports/e/06dakar/team/cars.html Cheers, The Y-man

umm.... Brenda, no one looks at the driver of those cars......:D Cheers, The Y-man

Attached are photos of my envisaged: 1. weekend road car (very smooth roads only) 2. weekend off road car 3. weekday commute car Cheers, The Y-man