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if I make it to 90 PF, I doubt I'll care whether my salmon was vegetarian... :) so what do you farmers think the collapse of Great Southern will do to land prices?

Another harsh light of day reminder that the world is overpopulated and our food is having to adapt to compensate. The largest manufacturer of feed for caged salmon is taking them off their natural diet onto a vegetarian one...... Presumably, the Omega 6/3 EFAs humans eat salmon for will have...

good stuff TC. Suppose you are better off not harvesting the chickpeas if you want to cut the fertilizer costs on grains. What's the source of the urea you use? Is it a petro byproduct? All I know is it is made from ammonia and carbon dioxide. Why does it keep going up in price?

Good stuff TC. like the pictorial evidence. Do you reckon peeing on the nitrogen deficient stuff will help. :) Didn't they used to cycle a crop of legumes to put back nitrogen?

makes a lot of sense that China could not be urbanized rapidly. why bother importing massive amounts of farm machinery when you have cheap labour anyways. doubt they'll ever become significant food exporters.....well not grains, maybe some veges....and garlic which Australia seems to get heaps...

will be interesting to see how the Chinese diet evolves. I'll revise my earlier point that grain production wouldn't be as important, because as you say, their intake of protein will probably increase, and livestock will probably be fed grain. Though I should imagine their livestock health...

well, I suppose as they industrialize more core work, and therefore do less manual work, they won't need the same number of Calories......so a dwindling need for broadacre grains like rice and wheat.

I suppose the big issue is terrain TC. If they don't have km's of flatish broadacre, hard to see how they can do it large scale like Australia. Then you have to consider their winter temp...

TC, what do you know about Chinese agriculture? If all their farmers are heading down the big smoke, are their soils, terrain, and rainfall partial to large scale farming with low labour? Seems they might have growing trouble meeting their food needs very soon.

had always thought snow peas were sub tropical cos I always relate them to Thai Curries.....but suppose they're called SNOW peas for a reason....

nice report from Tassy TC. regarding vegetables, do you have any insight into Snowpeas? My local shop prices jump all over the place. One week they are $17 a kg, then $30. Reckon if I was going to grow something, it would be snowpeas.

hehehe.......yeah be a bit unfair to see ma and pa kettle getting the pension when they live on 20,000 unproductive hectares. though then big brother would have to come in and work out the productivity and market value of the farm. gee the calculus of socialism's fairness gets complicated...

Do corporates get the same drought relief the 'poor old distressed' 5th generation farmer gets? I always thought it funny when Ray Martin went into bat for the farmers, rolling out the "this poor bugger has 3/4 million in debt and they are doing it tough." camera cuts to kids with no shoes...

Amazing that they handled 83kg bags. Lifting a weight bar with wts on the end is hard enough. Handling a round bag with soft ears, over and over would have been the end of a lot of guys. Though suppose they weren't doing it 5 days a week 40 weeks a yr. Some of the toughest old buggers I've...

well we should all be eating less meat anyways..... which would leave more of TC's grain for people to eat, rather then livestock. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/11/01/2078305.htm

Good looking cows.... Can you Toll Express one to me? dressed.... would do the Muslim knife thing myself, but might freak the neighbours out....they aren't Muslim, and mightn't understand the multicultural thing....... Just got a new deep freeze.

am surprised you don't have it wireless networked to your broadband link. then you could surf the net while working, like city folk...