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It's all the arguments on for , that confuse the whole OZ situation over this last year or two and within the near future even more because they do all actually make sense and do have merit right across the board . But on one hand we have things like the US, UK, world economic situation , very...

Exactly ! Besides , even on the chart and in Australian fundie's , no not undies , fundies , we should definitely be approaching a long downward and then leveling sweep for atleast 6 or 7 years followed by the upward sweep only matching back to where we are right now. We'd be well into that...

Not a hope in hell in my opinion , certain area spikes yeah but once this one drops down again. We've used up 25 yrs growth in 6 or 7 , has to be a price and now Rudds really put the icing on that one. I don't care I don't even bother looking for growth , not near term anyway, I look for...