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With these types of discussion. there will rarely be a clear winner. Slight movement in either direction has both camps claiming victory. I guess it keeps the forum ticking over. The only real winners are the quiet investors sitting in the background having the odd chuckly at the goings on...

Yes yes well played. My last ip bought 18 months ago is still worth well above the purchase price so my real world scenario tells me im ok. I still say property faithfull will prevail given more time. picking smaller wondows in a cycle will always have different teams winning. The question...

Yes yes. In 12 months we will see. This is a familiar call also. ( but not from you) :) I will just add. What I say isnt intended to be rude. It's just that a lot of post follow a similar templet. #### fall in prices by #####. They are a bit thinner on the ground these days but they still...

I was stating that your 1st qtr 2010 remark reminded me of the ENDLESS gloomist bombing runs stating that big falls were comming. I was not saying you were the source of all these references. Im not going to split hairs over the who,we,if blah blah. Im just saying that many thought the sky would...

1st quarter 2010 now is it :rolleyes: To me the gloomist are wrong. We may be in for modest drops or a long period of stagnation but it wasnt that long ago we thought the world was going to end and a 20% drop was the best outcome we could hope for. The world didnt end so that seals it for me.

I agree that the LVR,s are up there but what i have noticed on the street is a hell of a lot of FHB being knocked back for variose reasons like income,current debt,credit record. This to me says that while LVR,s have remained high. The people being axcepted are more likely to fulfill there...