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  1. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    Shares, specifically in the US, are becoming disassociated with the underlying business due to HFT, black boxes, dark pools, all that jazz. Apparently computer algorithm trading makes up 80% of volume on the US market where several years ago it only made up 30%. This can sometimes work in your...
  2. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    Ahh fair call, missed you were responding to the Gold chart request. Most that invest in Gold would refer to it as a store of wealth, that chart you provided would indicate that it has played it's role quite well :D
  3. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    A bit of a deceiving chart really...e.g. Can you name 1 stock that was around in 1800? Without knowing exactly how they have come to those figures I assume they are using some sort of index which is constantly cycling the stocks that make up group it represents, so buying specific blue chip...
  4. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    Isn't it funny what measurements becomes acceptable/not acceptable depending on what prices are doing! It's like for a long period of time we accepted house prices as a multiple of a single income was a reasonable measurement/gauge of fair price, then it became household income, now they are...
  5. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    Any chart that goes back prior to 1971 is pretty pointless in USD as it was tied to the dollar (fixed price), but these inflation adjusted charts might give you some idea: US Government CPI http://www.sharelynx.com/chartstemp/FreeGoldSilverCPI.php Shadow Government CPI...
  6. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    I had to go back to page 2 to find out why we were comparing Gold to property and realised I introduced Gold to the thread...wooops :p P.S. You can earn a return from physical Gold If you live in Vietnam ;)
  7. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    That's fair enough Oracle and I can see where you are coming from, however there have been similar periods in property prices as well with low/no growth and if you went into such a period in a negatively geared situation then you could not only be in the situation where you are earning no income...
  8. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    Oracle, I will be the first to admit Gold is volatile, much more so in price than property and I am personally not advocating any 30 year buy and hold strategy for Gold from these levels. I agree that one could have been severely burnt with Gold if buying near the peak, but there have been...
  9. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    Surely it is not that difficult to see that cash is not the risk free haven that you make it out to be? You imply that to be risk free you need to be able to get all your capital back, but what good is getting your capital back if the capital is in a fiat currency that now has less purchasing...
  10. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    Why? Because those moving the market (e.g. commercials) are long and the speculative non-commercials are short. Though you will usually see the commercials publicly indicating the opposite of what they are trading ;) I partially agree. I do agree the next stage will be yield, but think that...
  11. hobo-jo

    world wide financial crash will it make property cheaper

    IMO Gold will perform better than most blue chip stocks over the short to medium term, that said there are some blue chip gold stocks (best of both worlds? :D). Though if someone is "wondering" where to park their money then sounds like they would be better off sticking with cash! I don't think...
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