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Likewise, the only new thing I have bought was a ppor at the time Not sure what a pure investor is?

No Logan will increase with or without a demographic shift, lots of people live there for affordability reasons but the population is still growing. Yes investors can inflate a market over the short term IMO but the area will continue to grow price wise just like it always has, it's just...

Don't know, I was trying to make the point that expensive suburbs don't always grow any better than other locations which would be easy to demonstrate depending on holding period.

According to Residex the 7 year capital growth for houses in Cronulla from 2006 % was -1,0,9,1,1,6,4 and -9% in 2013. The median value increased from $1134000 to $1272000 for a total gain of $138000 over seven years. This was a return to less than 2% and was below inflation if the property was...

5% growth + 6% yield is a 11% gross return So real return can be higher depending on yield, expenses and leverage

If you look at 10 CG rates the winner very much depends on the start/end period, over the last 10 without looking it up I bet BN was close to the bottom but change the window slightly and it's a different story