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But you said it was fact and not personal opinion.

I'm not taking the pi$$ here, I am genuinely curious. In your work as a psychologist do you ridicule clients with religious beliefs and tell them to grow up?

To me there is no difference between being open to there being a spiritual world/ghost (or whatever) than say open to there being a god. Obviously, Tim, you don't believe in God either but are you so openly mocking of those that do? Do you think there is life on other planets? Is that up for...

See, now I feel you are mocking my noodley Lord and that I really cannot accept. May he smite you with his meat ball.

How can you prove that anything doesn't exist? You would always leave yourself open to having used an incorrect methodology. I think the onus is on proving ghosts exist but we don't know how to do that, which is the crux of this whole discussion. Just because we don't know how to measure...

I take your cut and paste and raise you a discussion on what actually constitutes "the laws of nature". Apparently even philosophers can't agree.:D http://www.iep.utm.edu/lawofnat/

Thanks for that, interesting. The first paragraph does say that "nothing is ever proven in science" and I tend to think of science as a changing thing as our knowledge increases. With the first law that you cannot destroy energy it just changes forms, wouldn't that mean (in the context of...

What law of nature is it? I wouldn't even know what the "laws of nature" are without googling. You reckon the existence of a "ghost" is against nature. I am just asking, how? I am guessing that it is based on the assumption that there is no spiritual component of a human, but this is not proven...

Is there a natural law that the existence of a ghost would violate? What natural law is that?

But you are assuming we know all about nature and natural laws, the rest of us are assuming that we don't. If everyone looked at what they know right now and say "yep, that's enough for me, that's all there is" then society in general and science in particular would go nowhere. I have heard it...

unus cornu (unicorn) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javan_rhinoceros You're welcome. :D

So, are you saying that everything that exists in the universe has been measured and quantified?

maybe a video isn't the right technology to record these type of events. Did atoms exist before we had the technology to see them? Did protons and neutrons? Did cells in your body exist before microscopes? Did the earth revolve around the sun before we could quantify it? I could put links to...