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not if they are learning in Mum and dad's car.... then there's learner truck drivers, bus drivers, pilots. Helicopters that report the traffic. F111 at Riverfire, OMG! they actually dump fuel over the most crowded part of brissie and we line up to watch!

MM2 are you also against learner drivers on the road? shouldn't they practice on a private property out west where they can't put innocent civilians at risk? They don't NEED to practice on real roads with real situations do they? My gosh and there must be thousands of them every year just...

of course mad max is right when the terrorists come they will ignore the densely populated cities and bomb the c**p out of the olgas!:rolleyes: and then take a whole bunch of kangaroos hostage.;) Any modern warfare is URBAN warfare and our defence forces need to be prepared for it.