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I agree China and bayview. It just continues to get worse. Most of it is laziness, pure and simple. They get a taste of the free lunch, and don't want to change. At one time, even seasonal workers here in Canada, had different types of jobs. They would log/cut wood in the winter and...

Here I thought I was having deja vue :) when I started reading the new thread Doctors and their Income

yes they do..:)

Since I am one of the worst offenders of getting sidetracked, I wasn't planning on objecting to it :) But while everyone has been debating here, I started a similar thread on another blog, where welfare is discussed extensively...

Agreed Bayview, to a point. Some people don't abuse the system, and use it as a helping hand and get on with life. Others get a "taste" of it, and really savour the flavour. Community services and other make work schemes are just that. It probably takes more government time to oversee these...

None of us are perfect mothers :) None of my kids went to uni. I didn't encourage it, and they didn't feel compelled. I see so many people who start uni courses and drop out, or take such useless courses they rarely can get a job in that profession. I find this happens when they are...

I actually agree with most of what you said. However....If a government is spending $7 Bil for people to do nothing, and getting nothing in return what good is it? If the use this $7 Bil+ to create incentives for factories (and it could be for something the government buys o/s atm, so as to...

I did email him a few days ago...no reply. I could talk about the basics card, and the downfalls I see there, but it really is pointless. Concede that recipients can basically spend their payments on anything they want. Move forward with actually getting people working, who don't need to be...

Cutting aid is a way of reducing taxes.If all you plan to do with savings is give more to welfare recipients, all it will do is make it more attractive. There needs to be something in place when you kick current citizens away from the table. Otherwise they are still hungry, and will resort to...

During the USA 1930's Depression, make work projects were used to get people working. As long as there is value in the work, it is a good thing.

HI Angel, No, I didn't know a lot of prisoners made public supplies for Australia. Can you give an example where these factories are located in Australia? Austism now includes a wide range of people, who are also high functioning intelligent people, and do hold fulltime jobs. I would...

I am idealistic, I know that. It just frustrates me to no end, that we have so many people that take advantage of contributing members of society, with the "entitlement " attitude. Over the years, we have had a fair amount of welfare tenants. A couple of the older ones, obviously would never...

Truong, I never even considered you were previously on welfare.You wouldn't have used the term work camp, and co-op farm otherwise. I suspected you were from a different country, and you would share that info with us, if you chose to. Difficult times you went thru, which I think no one would...

Sheryn, That is a great idea about disabled visiting seniors, and reading or interacting with them in some way. I'm sure some disabled people want to be a part of productive society. Tents always seem to be good enough for our military too. I'll bet you find some families who live in...

No, but that company could get the government contract.

You hear people complaining all the time there are no jobs. You can't cut people off welfare, unless you can offer something to support their family. If you think closing borders is too drastic, what about something along these lines: Government probably buys a lot of "jam packets" for...

You have an interesting prospective. Before you went into the labor camp, and then the co-operative farm, how did you support your self/family? Did you have the option of working wherever you wanted?

Maybe I just don't have all the answers. You seem to be an intelligent person, with more education than I. What useful solution can you bring to the table, that will get Australians back to work and off welfare? If factories were enticed away, what entices them back? Stop being a...

Bayview, You're right. Under current laws this type of work suggestion could not work. I make these suggestions about Australia, but they would work equally in Canada, where we have the very same issues. Why do they ship raw materials away, and bring back the product..because it is cheaper...

Work houses were designed to keep destitute people from starving. It was voluntary, and you could leave at any time. It was harsh conditions, to keep able bodied people out. If they didn't have these places, people would have died. Now we have welfare, and many people do not need to be on...