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    Australian housing overvalued

    I don't understand your Q. 'forever' isn't a time frame I'm interested in - 15 yrs is a far more interesting time frame & we have a guarantee of that. You're saying rates are unpredictable 2-3 years out, and you're also saying that you won't buy based on an assumption of rates not rising. So my...
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    Australian housing overvalued

    As you consider rates to be unpredictable, then surely you will always consider housing to be to high risk ? Regardless of the fact that you are offered v. long term fixed IRs are at historic lows.:confused: When I asked when would you consider housing affordable ?, I was hoping for an answer...
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    Australian housing overvalued

    I think that explains a lot of your issues. The markets v. strong view is that the new normal is low rates - that is a safe assumption. You can absolutely guarantee it when you fix for 15 yrs at 7%. Why aren't you also making that assumption ? If you can mitigate the rate risk, then would you...
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    Australian housing overvalued

    So are you saying higher rates/lower prices make it more affordable ?:confused: Irrelevant. The point is that the market thinks that IRs for the next 10-15 yrs will average around 7%. The market thinks that your scenario is unlikely - IRs will NOT be rising 'only a couple' of %', while incomes...
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    Australian housing overvalued

    The chart is correctly labeled as income/interest paid ratio ..... my post incorrectly called it interest paid/price.
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    Australian housing overvalued

    Is it safe to conclude that you think ratios/charts that take into account only 2 of the 3 most significant variables are better than one that takes all 3 into account ? Did you miss the bit about 'new normal' and low interest rates for the foreseeable future ? 10/15yr fixed rates of <7% ...
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    Australian housing overvalued

    The price/rent & price/income ratios don't take the biggest expense into account, so the income/interest paid ratio is an improvement over those measures. The RBA/Commsec chart I referred to shows Income /Interest Paid is v. close the middle of the 6x to 13x range of the last 25 yrs. OTOH...
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    Australian housing overvalued

    This chart of ratio of house prices to interest payments is IMO a lot more relevant than price/income or price/rent ratios - neither of which take into account the most important factor of the house purchase equation.
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