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  1. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    I am one that was a stay at home mum, who put my child in care for 1 day a week when she turned 2. The reason? We had no family around to help out and give me any sort of break, no friends with children the same age for her to play with, the other kids in the street either were in care or at...
  2. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    Or tax on combined income of partners
  3. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    At least a card system would cut down on fraud for cash: http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/centrelink-fraud-costs-hunter-16m-per-week/1990329.aspx That's $1.6mil a week in only one small area of Australia ... or $83mil a year in an area with a population base of around...
  4. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    Have never watched TT, and haven't deliberately watched ACA for over 3 years. The Zoo on GEM is great fun to watch with the kids ... otherwise I'm online, cleaning up after dinner or reading a good book/newspaper. Seabreeze is pretty right about a welfare system that work-ish ... except that...
  5. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    All you have to do is quickly re-read your post before hitting submit, and having the respect for others to correct your mis-spellings so that what you write is legilable and makes sense. It's not hard. And even if you miss a mis-spelling or write a non-sense sentence before entering...
  6. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    sheesh - it WAS NOT and NEVER WAS a religious quote. ie, both you and Aaron were wrong. Get over it. The reason I thought that english may not be your first language is that your spelling is atrocious, despite it being pointed out time and again, your sentence construction is questionable...
  7. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    ... as far as I'm aware - it is NOT a "christian" quote. It is an old saying (first coined by Benjamin Franklin) meaning the complete opposite of "god" supplying whatever is required. It means that going out and getting, hard work and taking responsibility to better yourself causes you to...
  8. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    I'm am NOT a "god" believer in the slightest - although I do like the non-religion orientated teachings of the Dalai Lama. It is an old tongue in cheek saying pointed at those who believe "others" (ie, god/government) will provide if you believe enough - rather than getting off your...
  9. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    So, what are your suggestions on how things should be different to encourage non-dependency? Haven't seen one yet ... only bagging of others suggestions offered.
  10. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    don't see anyone here preaching that ... I see lots of examples of positive ways to contribute to society, I see a desire for others to better themselves by self accountability and responsibility, I see others trying to suggest ways of encouraging others to improve their footprint on the world...
  11. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    Ah yes - I am a Dalai Lama fan and have briefly met him once (albeit on a plane). Dalai Lama Let us cultivate love and compassion, both of which give life true meaning. This is the religion I preach. It is simple. Its temple is the heart. Its teaching is love and compassion. Its moral...
  12. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    No - you are twisting what is being said by extrapolating with your own biases, perceptions and opinions (not Kathryn's). What Kathryn said doesn't need to be "extrapolated" as she was very clear in what she said - which was not at all anything like the leaps of word manipulation and...
  13. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    But no one is suggesting abolishing the Welfare system. I think you will find that everyone on here agrees that we need to look after those who genuinely need to be looked after - elderly, disabled, mental issues, short term unemployed, sole parents etc But - and this it the big BUT - social...
  14. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    Which is why the cards would be a great idea ... it would supply what is neededto survive to those who need it (food, utilities, clothing) - and those who abuse the system purely for the cash to spend on what they want wouldn't get "cash".
  15. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    I agree - as a safety net for a period when they are in real need. Not as a (sometimes inter-generational) lifestyle choice.
  16. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    Around 20 years ago I knew someone who didn't stop until they had 10 - all with special needs. Granted they were all with the same dad, and they were married, but sheesh! The centrelink pmts must've been huge. Currently mum at the school has 6 kids, one severly autistic - but her hubby...
  17. lizzie

    Centerlink payments with conditions

    I agree that the Basics Card is a great idea. The welfare system is supposed to be a safety net for those who find themselves in a difficult situation - temporarily - but it is being abused by a portion of society. If that portion can't be mature enough to be responsible for how they spend...
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